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  18:51:28  21 September 2011
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ZippyDSMlee
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On forum: 09/10/2010
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Take out upgrade exclusivity

Just added shot shells to the accuracy mode on most of the shotguns and I am wondering how hard would it be to remove the upgrade exclusivity?

Also how hard would it be to make the silencer go on any pistol and rifle?

I am running CS complete on a fully updated CS.
  23:29:27  21 September 2011
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Delerium
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On forum: 07/17/2011
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Take out upgrade exclusivity

Just added shot shells to the accuracy mode on most of the shotguns and I am wondering how hard would it be to remove the upgrade exclusivity?

Also how hard would it be to make the silencer go on any pistol and rifle?

I am running CS complete on a fully updated CS.
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Yes i didn't like shotguns accuracy upgrade. Because your weapon never use shot rounds. So i didn't make an accuracy upgrade for shotgun.
  00:06:10  22 September 2011
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PhoenixHeart
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It's not too hard, there's an old mod out there that does exactly this (though the straight download version has a bug that we (community) fixed, and I'm sure one of us has the fixed version floating around somewhere.). It works fine with 1.5.10 though, but not with CS Complete. To do it yourself is very basic to an experienced modder, but still kinda hard for people who aren't used to reading and messing with the configs. There's a section at the bottom of the upgrade files that dictates which upgrades are exclusive. can't remember off the top of my head what all you have to change...

maybe one of the experts here can chime in and be far more helpful than me... I'm more of a bug tester and general mod enthusiast more than a modder myself xD
  00:14:16  22 September 2011
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SetaKat
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On forum: 02/20/2010
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God, everytime someone mentions adding or removing upgrades, I'm reminded of the time spent developing the new upgrade schemes.
Its just some editing of several xml and ltx files. Only problem is, if something goes wrong, the engine crashes without telling you why, making it very hard to figure out what went wrong.
I just ignore the upgrade in vanilla. You don't need shot with high accuracy. Its range is incredibly limited, and if you don't kill your enemy with one blast, the first one will probably stun them, then the second one probably will kill them.
  16:38:00  22 September 2011
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ZippyDSMlee
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On forum: 09/10/2010
 

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ZippyDSMlee
09/22/2011 16:45:32
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It's not too hard, there's an old mod out there that does exactly this (though the straight download version has a bug that we (community) fixed, and I'm sure one of us has the fixed version floating around somewhere.). It works fine with 1.5.10 though, but not with CS Complete. To do it yourself is very basic to an experienced modder, but still kinda hard for people who aren't used to reading and messing with the configs. There's a section at the bottom of the upgrade files that dictates which upgrades are exclusive. can't remember off the top of my head what all you have to change...

maybe one of the experts here can chime in and be far more helpful than me... I'm more of a bug tester and general mod enthusiast more than a modder myself xD
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I am a "OMG THIS MUST CHANGE" modder with the attention span to match >< would like to know how its done so I can mess with it some more.


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Yes i didn't like shotguns accuracy upgrade. Because your weapon never use shot rounds. So i didn't make an accuracy upgrade for shotgun.
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Its not hard to put it back in just add the shot name and a comma to the upgrade file where the ammo is. I like the shot to be close togather anyway, it makes the shotgun more evil!


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God, everytime someone mentions adding or removing upgrades, I'm reminded of the time spent developing the new upgrade schemes.
Its just some editing of several xml and ltx files. Only problem is, if something goes wrong, the engine crashes without telling you why, making it very hard to figure out what went wrong.
I just ignore the upgrade in vanilla. You don't need shot with high accuracy. Its range is incredibly limited, and if you don't kill your enemy with one blast, the first one will probably stun them, then the second one probably will kill them.
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Its about ammo use and conservation, thus why it buged me enough to go and put it back in.

I'd still like to try it, maybe up the price of mods to balance it, it just seems silly in such a unpolished game to have such retractions that what made the first one so much fun other than the weight limit(which is the ultimate balancer in the game) which drove me crazy.
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Oh BTW where is the radar time out line for enemies? I want them red dots to hang around a bit longer LOL


Also I am getting sound glitches in the middle of anomalies and radiation which is funny because I didn't have it before I installed complete 0-o.
  18:51:38  22 September 2011
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Vikingstalker
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The "can't use shot anymore" restriction is bullshit anyway.
There are a lot of hunting Shotguns to be have which have rifled barrels to increase accuracy while using Slugs but they can still use shot without issues.
  21:07:06  22 September 2011
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ZippyDSMlee
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The "can't use shot anymore" restriction is bullshit anyway.
There are a lot of hunting Shotguns to be have which have rifled barrels to increase accuracy while using Slugs but they can still use shot without issues.
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Least its easy to fix, also wondering why the FN browning pistol can't use a silencer when the sub machine gun a 9x19mm round can 0_o
  04:34:42  23 September 2011
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ZippyDSMlee
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09/23/2011 5:29:55
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So I got the armor portion of this to work fine

http://stalker.filefront.com/file/Full_Upgrades_for_Armors_and_Weapons_Mod;94670


There is an error in the weapons portion that makes it crash, I'll see if I can run it down by installing 2 or 3 of the files at a time, it worked with the test weaopn but installing them all did not.
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Seems to be bad files from w_pb_up.ltx to w_wincheaster1300_up.ltx(and their upgrade files), not all of them are bad will have to do them one at a time to see which are.

SOOOO CLLOOOSSSEEEEEE to getting this to work LOL
  04:55:37  23 September 2011
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SetaKat
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09/23/2011 4:56:30
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The problem is with the upgraded SIG550 that freedom give you for joining.
Send me the file, and I can have it fixed no problem. I've done this before for another player, but sadly I no longer have the file.

Also, this is a cheat mod, if you weren't already aware. The reason you cannot install all upgrades, or add attachments to all weapons is for balance reasons.

Come to think of it, I need to release my CoP style upgrades for CS as a standalone mod too...
  05:38:31  23 September 2011
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ZippyDSMlee
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ZippyDSMlee
09/23/2011 16:40:09
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The problem is with the upgraded SIG550 that freedom give you for joining.
Send me the file, and I can have it fixed no problem. I've done this before for another player, but sadly I no longer have the file.

Also, this is a cheat mod, if you weren't already aware. The reason you cannot install all upgrades, or add attachments to all weapons is for balance reasons.

Come to think of it, I need to release my CoP style upgrades for CS as a standalone mod too...
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The link is http://stalker.filefront.com/file/Full_Upgrades_for_Armors_and_Weapons_Mod;94670

I've run down the crashing to somewhere in the weapons folder.

I dunno I am playing it on master and its a much more intense/difficult game than STALKER was.

I dunno if I would call it cheating, prices could be rebalanced all in all it adds to the fun in a neat game a shame I can not like Fallout 3 as much to me its more of a mess than STALKER ever was!
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Its in the w_pb.ltx or w_pkm.ltx or w_pm.ltx and their upgrade files I can not tell which.

BTW thanks for the help!!!
 
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