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  21:07:01  23 September 2017
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Three Mile Island
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On forum: 11/04/2008
 

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True but if you stay neutral, the Bandit Base can be under constant attack
by Loners and later Duty & Freedom. This means that the important NPCs
disappear every time for their safety.

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Or sometimes they get killed instead of disappearing. But attacks are not that common, IIRC.


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Plus the Bandit Trader pays very badly for selling items and his inventory isn't that great either.

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But the Bandit Bartender pays OK for food and vodka, and the Bandit Technician pays very well for Flash drives. And since the Flea Market Traders only have limited funds, you can't sell a lot to them anyway. I've sometimes traded surplus ammo for vodka at the Flea Market and then sold the vodka to the Bandit Bartender (like a real Garbage scavenger). But eventually Flea Market runs out of both funds and vodka this way.


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One way to get past the Bandits at level changers is to wait for an emission and
then when they leave their post for safety, run past them to go elsewhere.
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I just run past them in most places. They might fire a few rounds after you and make you lose a slight amount of Friendship, but if you're in a hurry you have no choice. On the other hand, if you cross a level during an emission you'll be in a hurry to find protection on the next level, which adds extra challenge.
  16:28:23  24 September 2017
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Tejas Stalker
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Yes, the important NPCs will try to flee the area and can be killed.
When I was against the Bandits, it was my goal to kill Yoga, Borov
and the others when an attack commenced and they sprinted out.

All the Bartenders pay well for vodka, food and related items. Why
GSC decided to eliminate hunger and have all these useless items is
beyond me. They generate decent money if sold to the right people.

While the Day & Night Traders have limited funds to buy things, this
can be overcome by buying things from them like rare ammo and then
stashing it nearby. After all, there's no benefit to amassing a lot of money
and then leaving the Dark Valley and getting mugged and losing it all. For
this reason spend the money to buy stuff from them that can be used later.

I have also sprinted past the Bandit checkpoints to leave a level. I did
this at the LC going to the Agroprom and the Bandits there can go hostile
and you lose half a bar of relationship. That means if you have them green
then they drop to yellow and you have to earn your way back to friendly.

TS
  19:35:16  24 September 2017
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Three Mile Island
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When I was against the Bandits, it was my goal to kill Yoga, Borov
and the others when an attack commenced and they sprinted out.

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Reminds me of when I chased a panicked Borov across Garbage! I recall he was unarmed.


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While the Day & Night Traders have limited funds to buy things, this
can be overcome by buying things from them like rare ammo and then
stashing it nearby. After all, there's no benefit to amassing a lot of money
and then leaving the Dark Valley and getting mugged and losing it all.
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Problem is they don't sell anything you need, IIRC. I agree it's best to not carry cash in Garbage, I usually spend it on upgrading my equipment.


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I have also sprinted past the Bandit checkpoints to leave a level. I did
this at the LC going to the Agroprom and the Bandits there can go hostile
and you lose half a bar of relationship. That means if you have them green
then they drop to yellow and you have to earn your way back to friendly.
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It's also possible at the East Cordon and the Red Forest(?) level changers, perhaps others too that I can't remember. The local NPCs at the level changer do become hostile, but they'll usually die anyway eventually. The loss of total Faction reputation can usually be fixed easily. An exception might be if you want to make the Renegades friendly/neutral, then every extra bit of Bandit friendship may help.
  20:01:35  24 September 2017
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Max Chill
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First time Clear Sky player

I have also sprinted past the Bandit checkpoints to leave a level. I did
this at the LC going to the Agroprom and the Bandits there can go hostile
and you lose half a bar of relationship. That means if you have them green
then they drop to yellow and you have to earn your way back to friendly.

TS
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I've found that this Bandit checkpoint can be bypassed without pissing off the natives by traveling along the very edge of walkable terrain over the tunnel leading to Agroprom. Through this a safe route between the Garbage and the Cordon can be found as well, albeit a circuitous one.
  03:46:29  26 September 2017
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TM5000
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CS Scout PDA

So I retrieved the PDA but upon attempting to return it, there is no dialog.

I have talked to everyone at the spot marked on my map, southern farmstead, and nobody wants it.

Boo.

Oh yea, I started a new game, thunderstorms and everything.

The puzzling inclusion of tourists delight is actually a great moneymaker. I sold 24 cans for 100 rubles each!
  03:11:23  28 September 2017
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TM5000
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Bandits with a 'tude

I just got the 'collect the loot' mission from Major Khaletsky.

Bandits are completely neutral faction yet they open fire as soon as they see me.

Why is this? There are no bars in either direction for their faction on my PDA.

I have had no interactions with them, as far as I know.
  08:06:55  28 September 2017
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Tejas Stalker
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Are they at a level changer that I already warned you about?

TS
  17:34:19  28 September 2017
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TM5000
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First time Clear Sky player

Are they at a level changer that I already warned you about?

TS
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No. They are across the road from the loner camp in Cordon in the house where you first meet Sin in Lost Alpha.

I have not joined any factions this time and have tried approaching slowly and unarmed but they still open fire.

Unrelated comments: the lack of Rostok and Wild Territory is very disappointing. I am already looking forward to playing LA or CoC again. They have spoiled me with their open world/sandbox environment.

How does Stalker soup compare? I have yet to play that one.
  19:01:06  28 September 2017
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Tejas Stalker
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Tejas Stalker
09/28/2017 19:02:10
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Don't take any jobs against the Bandits in the Cordon before Garbage.
This is how Players get tricked into automatically assuming that the
Bandits are your enemy like in SoC. Likewise don't leave the Cordon
and enter Garbage until you see the Loners have control of the level
changer on the other side. Otherwise the Bandits there will attack or
rob you. Wait until it is safe and avoid approaching the Concentration
Camp at the Vehicle Scrapyard totally until you get the entire Bandit
Faction green. AFTER that you can enter it from the northern side.

TS
  21:35:55  28 September 2017
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TM5000
The Zone is my campground.
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On forum: 02/11/2012
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Ok I'm going back to a previous save before getting the mission.

I don't recall him saying I would tangle with Bandits but I will double check that.

I also gave him the pistol he asked for but haven't seen him use it yet.

My intention was to improve my standing with Miltary but I see they are not on the faction list. Neither is Monolith. I suppose their hostility is a given.
 
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