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  19:24:11  23 June 2015
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Decane
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On forum: 04/04/2007
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Kojocel, I tested your savegame. The two CS squad members who are stuck between the Old Church and Southern Farmstead actually do have a squad leader - it is the guide at the Southern Farmstead. If you kill him, one of the two stuck NPCs becomes the new squad leader and they continue to advance normally, permitting the faction war to continue. I don't know why those two NPCs don't try to make their way to the Farmstead.
  22:02:26  23 June 2015
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kojocel
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On forum: 09/28/2009
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Kojocel, I tested your savegame. The two CS squad members who are stuck between the Old Church and Southern Farmstead actually do have a squad leader - it is the guide at the Southern Farmstead. If you kill him, one of the two stuck NPCs becomes the new squad leader and they continue to advance normally, permitting the faction war to continue. I don't know why those two NPCs don't try to make their way to the Farmstead.
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Wow, I didn't expect that!

I will kill the guide at Southern Farmstead, no problem. However I need to ask for an advice on how to do it without the rest of the CS members getting hostile.

Leaning from behind with a silenced pistol?

And thank you, Decane, for your time and help!
  22:36:57  23 June 2015
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Decane
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Just one-shot kill him with a round to the head. Doesn't matter if you are visible to nearby NPCs when you do it because there is no concept of 'seeing you do it' in the game - CS goodwill toward you will be affected just the same way whether you are hidden or in plain sight (same goes for sound).

A one-shot kill is always preferred over multiple woundings because every separate wounding decrements goodwill quite aggressively - you are always best off one-shotting a non-hostile if you need to kill him. If you do headshot the guide, Clear Sky's attitude to you shouldn't change much at all - the guide's pals will turn neutral toward you, but the rest of CS will remain friendly. A new guide will promptly take his place.

It's regrettable that you ran into a bug that requires such a desperate measure. I wish I knew why those two guys aren't moving to regroup with their leader - usually squad NPCs in CS try to regroup if they wander off too far from the rest of their squad.
  19:19:33  24 June 2015
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kojocel
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It's regrettable that you ran into a bug that requires such a desperate measure. I wish I knew why those two guys aren't moving to regroup with their leader - usually squad NPCs in CS try to regroup if they wander off too far from the rest of their squad.
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Decane:
It's OK. He deserved it for ruining his whole faction war!


SWAMP
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Finally I am leaving the Swamps. I hit Experienced, gathered some artifacts (regretfully not from anomaly near Machine Yard), some ammo. Upgraded gear, got "Bring me..." quests from almost all CS squads - just enough to hit friendly again once I come back to the Swamps.
* My load:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u366/kojocel/load_zpst0gbjwmf.jpg

A few things to mention before moving on:

1. Decane, the two guys are still stuck on their way between Old church and Southern farmstead. I assume the newest SF guide is their leader, so maybe this is worth investigating.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u366/kojocel/old_church_zpsp30fvdvw.jpg

2. When I entereted the game last time, I heard a shotgun shot, and then saw this:
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u366/kojocel/dead_zpsxpiz4jtv.jpg


3. Saw another CS guy in Exo with Franchi in his hands.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u366/kojocel/franchi_exo_zpsfsvantoh.jpg

4. Ahem... *cough cough *
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u366/kojocel/hm_zpsqtw07quc.jpg

5. Decane, following your advice with killing NPCs to figure out why they got stuck, I did some shooting in respect to the team which is still stuck near Fishing hamlet.
It appears that the guys in combat at the hamlet and the guys from the team which is in far SW corner of the samps are related, since killing one or another, makes the teams hostile.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u366/kojocel/team_stuck_zpskqguyary.jpg

6. A second CS team moved in to Machine Yard. I can take the quest to capture Encampemnt near the truck, but once we capture it, the team does not move from the spot, and it seems this prevent Renegards from re-spawning at their base.


That's it for now!
Cheers.
  13:44:03  2 August 2015
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Decane
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On forum: 04/04/2007
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Kojocel, YouTube celebrity Gopher recently ran into the same bug as you - the one where the faction war could come to a halt if the leader of a squad going to the Machine Yard assumes the role of the guide at the Southern Farmstead. The issue is now fixed; see the SRP download thread.
 
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