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  09:48:45  5 March 2013
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MentalRaptors
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On forum: 03/04/2013
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On CTDs...

I'm not sure if it's still relevant but I'd like to add the following:

I've been playing CS for a couple of weeks now, game date is 11 oct. I've had only 2 CTDs until now. I can't remember the circumstances when the 2nd occurred, but the 1st CTD was at Agroprom when I was bolt-probing the electric anomalies at the 2nd floor of the base to get to the corpse lying by the windows. I guess I threw them too fast or too much at a time. I didn't check the error log at the time, just reloaded and continued without problems.

From the start I kinda rushed through the Swamp area, so I probably didn't get all items and missions there. When I arrived at the Garbage I accepted a few Capture & Hold missions which didn't seem to resolve properly, up until now they're still open. Same goes for C&H missions at Agroprom. Did I accept too many at once? Could it have anything to do with aforementioned rushing of the Swamp or did I take too much time?

I did return to the Swamp area later to search a dozen of stashes, managed to find them all while clearing the area from Bandits and Renegades as I went along. Upon returning to the Garbage I found that the C&H missions still didn't resolve in any way so I left them at that, can't really be bothered anymore.
I'll attempt a replay later to see if I can make a difference. After digging through this forum I realized that's the only option if I'd like to get my hands on a full psy SEVA anyway.

But I digress: what I meant to say is that I do tend to hoard ammo and unique weapons/equipment, but I sell anything else I don't have use for (I need money!). I'd like to think that the 2 CTDs I got so far were merely coincidental then. Am I wrong?
  04:29:34  15 September 2010
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Tejas Stalker
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Clear Sky PATCH 1.5.10 Review

Once again I want to thank fluffy22 for making me happy
and letting me get back to the Zone that I love so much.

Adventures with Strelok~

I raced right behind him into the Tunnel:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7581/rf01.jpg

I wonder who decided to store all these Red Barrels here:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5453/rf02.jpg

Like I really need Strelok telling me he blew the Tunnel:
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/9439/rf03.jpg

Task failed...well not for trying:
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1769/rf04.jpg

Went back outside and found this cluster all bunched up:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9250/rf05.jpg

Hello Boys...what's new?
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8485/rf06.jpg

The last Screenshot before I died:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/989/rf07.jpg

Take 2: Strelok does this weird thing where he runs back towards me:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2194/rf08.jpg

Strelok threatening to kill me and he can't even hold his AKSU:
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6306/rf09.jpg

Don't let him get in the Tunnel...that's a good one:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9610/rf10.jpg

This blast killed me:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/395/rf11s.jpg

Strelok Take 3: Run Forest Run:
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/8966/rf12t.jpg

It's kinda hot in here:
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/96/rf13.jpg

Like I need to be told this:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2930/rf14.jpg

One Squad is Red...another is Yellow. The fork that goes to the right
and descends is the same one that appears again underneath the Red
Forest Mine with the section of road and the bathroom connected to it.
Outside these walls a Squad of Mutants is very close to where I am now:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9233/rf15.jpg

Getting this close to the Mine spawns new Renegades there. That is
why it is good not to get so close until you are ready to go visit them.
In this Screenshot there are 2 Renegades at the Red Forest Mine entrance:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/853/rf16.jpg

These Renegades are deep inside the Mine:
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8388/rf17.jpg

And the spawning Mutants that will kill them:
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2191/rf18.jpg

TS
  15:26:31  14 September 2010
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Three Mile Island
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Checked my old saves, and it seems I've played a month a few times, but not longer than that.
  13:54:59  14 September 2010
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Three Mile Island
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09/14/2010 13:57:11
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Are all your games several months long? Have you ever tried playing a quick one, just to see what happens when you reach the later levels?


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And as Fluffy had pointed out early I was wrong on the 8,000. If I sell 5,000 rounds of ammo that does not mean 5,000 objects. Since ammo is sold in boxes then 5,000 rounds in boxes of 50 would only be selling 100 objects.

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Actually 5000 rounds could require many more boxes than 100 if each box is not full (like when emptying sawn off shotguns, where each gun only gives you a box of two rounds). My point was more that whatever "23,000" means you only got rid of a small percentage of it.


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I have no idea where the 23,000 objects are.
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Sorry, I thought you only counted items from your own stashes. So your personal stashes are more or less empty now?

I guess the 23,000 objects could be all kinds of things, including items that are not removed properly from memory. If so the question becomes why they are not removed from memory, and why this affects your games.


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I guess all the NPCs, Mutants and Trader Inventories.
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Why would they grow that large? Do you have lots of dead NPCs that don't disappear on some level?


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It's amazing how I sell off so much, kill so many things and the Game is screaming at me that I have too much.
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Not sure if an alive or dead NPC makes any difference, as long as it's still present in the game. You shouldn't have to kill them since the spawning of new ones is always moderate (it's not like the alive NPCs are becoming more and more numerous, right?) --but even if you do kill them, doesn't the game remove the surplus bodies quickly enough? Maybe you should let them live...
  03:24:51  14 September 2010
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09/14/2010 3:25:39
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Clear Sky PATCH 1.5.10 Review

Three Mile Island~

You're missing what I was trying to say. I don't have 23,000 objects.
The Game is telling me it is saving 23,000 objects. And as Fluffy had
pointed out early I was wrong on the 8,000. If I sell 5,000 rounds of
ammo that does not mean 5,000 objects. Since ammo is sold in boxes
then 5,000 rounds in boxes of 50 would only be selling 100 objects.
I have no idea where the 23,000 objects are. I guess all the NPCs,
Mutants and Trader Inventories. Believe me if I could sell 23,000
objects to keep my Game from crashing I would in a heartbeat.


fluffy22~

Actually I gave up on going to the Red Forest for now and decided to
follow some of your other advice. I emptied out the Auto-Fill Stash by
Lefty and took more ammo to sell in the Agroprom. I killed all of the
Mutants in the Agroprom. I sold more stuff to both Agroprom Traders.
I returned to Garbage and emptied out the Auto-Fill Stashes. I went
to my Flea Market Stash and removed all the extra Pistols and took
100 grenades to sell in the Cordon. I gave Wild Napr the Fleshy PDA
he wanted. I went to the Cordon and gave the Military Driver his PDA.
All along in each Level I was able to make Manual Saves. I killed all
the Mutants in the Cordon and noticed Duty was fighting the Bandits
and finally engaged Freedom at the southern exit to the Dark Valley.
I returned to Garbage and took a Bandit Job to get the Mutants at
the Forest east of the Grimpen Mire. I tried to make a Manual Save
before the attack and I CTD again. Too many objects. It's amazing
how I sell off so much, kill so many things and the Game is screaming
at me that I have too much. What the hell am I suppose to go do? Kill
every Man & Mutant in every Level just to make the Game stop crashing?

TS
  01:20:07  14 September 2010
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Three Mile Island
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No I meant your own stashes, with ammo from emptied weapons etc. You wrote earlier that you just removed 8,000 objects but had 23,000 left...
  00:54:36  14 September 2010
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Tejas Stalker
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Clear Sky PATCH 1.5.10 Review

Instead of going to the Red Forest I guess I could go back to Yantar,
Agroprom, Garbage and Cordon and empty out the Auto-Fill Stashes.

TS
  00:37:24  14 September 2010
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Three Mile Island
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Maybe it's all the manual saves that fill up some memory limit, (though I can't see how they would affect the actual game).

Have you really given up hoarding? I suspect you've just removed a fraction of your supplies.
  22:42:00  13 September 2010
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Clear Sky PATCH 1.5.10 Review

I got a CTD just like I expected. At least I can say I gave it a try.

If the conditions are there to produce a CTD with a Manual or Auto
Save of course they will still be there when attempting a Quick Save.

TS
  04:43:23  13 September 2010
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Xeros612~

I guess it's worth a try. I stopped using Quick Saves back in 2007.

TS
 
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