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  04:02:50  5 September 2010
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hhiker
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*ahem...*


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I have yet to see exactly what the 1.5.10 Patch has fixed
except to neuter the Faction Wars and gimp the Game
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While from the perspective of game-in-game phenomena and challenges - like our tests and other comparisons or tournaments that rely on one or other ingame factor working in a given way in order to allow the comparison, a patch changing those factors is certainly an inconvinience...

... i think it's fair to keep in mind that there never has been a Clear Sky golden age when things worked the way as many of us would have liked to. Some things also didn't work the way they were supposed to but most did and most do. The objectives that the game was designed to meet were never in perfect unison with what one or other gamer specifically wished the game to fulfil (2 months of exploration?- no can do ... but with a compromise you'll manage; countless artifacts? - not on the menu ... but with a compromise you'll manage.) Clear Sky has been one big compromise from the beginning - and a fairly manageable one for that matter.

So really- gimped compared to what exactly?
The game has never been brilliant as a whole - but it was OK and it still is.
  04:05:38  5 September 2010
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Teh Soul Eater
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Huh? Were you replying to me?
  04:06:50  5 September 2010
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hhiker
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Huh? Were you replying to me?
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No, i was typing while you posted.
I'll add a quote for clarification.
  04:08:11  5 September 2010
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Teh Soul Eater
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Ok. Just a misunderstanding
  05:53:26  5 September 2010
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Clear Sky PATCH 1.5.10 Review

Well...I emerged from the Agroprom Underground without a CTD.

Duty Faction not on the move.

Gave the Dutyer his Case. Talked to the Duty Leader
and got no points in the Faction scale for helping them.
He gave me 10,000 rubles but my standing with Duty
did not budge. After talking to him...

Duty Faction still not on the move.

Before in previous Patches I had over a hundred well armed Dutyers
with RP-74s, Tunders and scoped Abakans pouring into Garbage
fighting Bandits, attacking all the Freedom positions and getting
a foothold in the Dark Valley. You know...the FACTION WARS.

Now I have NOTHING.

Not one single Dutyer has attacked Freedom.
Not one single Freedomer has attacked Duty.

Duty has taken up a few empty positions
in Garbage but there is no fighting anywhere.

Without 2 Squads in one position you can't get any to move.

Even the Duty positions are shrinking. There were 4 Dutyers
at the Garbage entrance. Then 3 and now 2. At the Agroprom
exit to Garbage were 4 Dutyers. Then 3...then 2...now there is 1.

No Mutants have killed them. No attacks by other Factions.
People are just vanishing. No bodies. No dropped weapons.

I have Mutants in the Marshes, Cordon, Agroprom & Garbage
but no Faction is interested or offers any Jobs to go kill them.

I saw more Faction Wars at Yanov Station.

TS
  06:12:35  5 September 2010
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SetaKat
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Strange, you must have really bad luck. I don't really have any problems. As I pointed out in the liquidator test 9 thread, duty doesn't advance in the faction wars unless you join them. The will send some squads out to target the barrier occasionally, but if the squads they currently have exceed their current faction cap, no more squads are spawned. With a squad cap of 30 at that point, Duty should be spawning like crazy, since all there existing squads add up to something like 14 of that cap
Battles on offline levels don't leave any bodies or weapons. The game simply gets the power of the attacking and defending squads, and which ever is greater, wins. It removes a few npcs to simulate deaths on the victors squad as well.
I've had duty make it all the way into Dark Valley in 1.5.10 once, and this was without joining a faction (although the squad did have an exo with a pkm). No two playthoughs are ever the same.
Two squads in a smart terrain will offer a job to attack another smart terrain, if and only if there is a squad camped there that doesn't belong to their faction.
  06:22:10  5 September 2010
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Tejas Stalker
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Clear Sky PATCH 1.5.10 Review

This is greatly disappointing. I've never gone to Yantar before
without a fully upgraded RP-74. There's only 1 in my Game
and the Exoskeleton carrying it won't leave the Duty Base.

TS
  07:41:18  5 September 2010
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SetaKat
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He's scripted to stay there, unfortunately.
  11:09:10  5 September 2010
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hhiker
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Strange, you must have really bad luck.
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Actually, my game has behaved rather similar to what Tejas described here - see the Test 10 thread pages 2 and 4 and you see that i've had similar or comparable Duty-related issues. (I mean "issues" in the situation where you'd want them on the constant move.)
  18:50:46  5 September 2010
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Three Mile Island
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sunzi,

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It seems that for each patch the CS became less "wild" and had fewer surprises.
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I guess if some of the variety in CS comes from certain bugs then of course fixing those bugs will result in a more predictable game.


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Maybe old bugs etc were "solved" by ironing out/ flattening out the game.

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Yes that's quite likely too.

I fear that the constant whining from the Newbie Faction about how buggy CS is compared with CoP doesn't bide well for future stalker games...
 
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