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  03:21:31  6 July 2005
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Dubbus
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relationships between stalkers

I know that stalkers will be able to interact with each other and form friends and enemies, but to what extent will this mechanism be? Will you be able to make friends who would consider risking their lives for you, and enemies that would consider putting themselvess in unnecessary danger to kill you? Will different types of characters admire you for different things?

I'm sorry is these questions have been asked before, but I did perform a searche.

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  05:49:08  6 July 2005
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relationships between stalkers

I know that stalkers will be able to interact with eachother and form friends and enemys, but to what extent will this mechanism be? Will you be able to make friends who would consider risking their lives for you, and enemies that would consider putting themselvess in unnecessary danger to kill you? Will different types of characters admire you for different things?

I'm sorry is these questions have been asked before, but I did perform a searche.
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It's cool, we need to start talking more about stalker these days rather than new experiments in russia etc etc...

I certainly hope that this will be a part of the game, If not, well, ohwell, the game is already good enough for me, it was more like, excellent while ago, a long while ago.

I think it would be awsome if you made really good friends with a fellow stalker and you travelled around together, that would be awsome, but i think it could prove to be frustrating, especially if your mate gets stuck and you leave him....i guess you would just kill him then, and take his stuff
  06:01:17  6 July 2005
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There will social affiliation by means of joining stalker clans, and apparently, you earn a reputation if you carry on like a jackass.. so I assume that there will be some kind of society- however, I don't know if there will be any relationships between two AI or the human and the AI per se, unless it's scripted into the story.
  14:39:55  6 July 2005
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Roman2
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i could be that they will just follow u around and shot ppl with u and maibe talk to u when u sit down to ewat or something i dont think it'll be too complex but im sure there will be some kind or society
  17:26:01  6 July 2005
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Dubbus
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however, I don't know if there will be any relationships between two AI or the human and the AI per se, unless it's scripted into the story.
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I guess that awnsers my question. I was certainly hoping for detailed unscipted relationships, but I guess the AI today probably isn't advanced enough for that.
  17:58:47  6 July 2005
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the AI today probably isn't advanced enough for that.
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I do wonder, though.. in the movies shown thus far, there is some chatter
between the AI stalkers. The original four videos have a lot of the same
phrase repeated ('break left' or 'eat lead' in russian I guess).

The later, longer gameplay videos show chatter too.. I wonder how much
the bots will actually chat at eachother and how much variety there will
be (example: you are hiding in shadows at night along a patrol route for
military. As the squad walks back and forth, will you only hear the same
stuff,. or is there a little randomness to what they say)
  19:27:04  6 July 2005
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Fux0r666
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I guess that awnsers my question. I was certainly hoping for detailed unscipted relationships, but I guess the AI today probably isn't advanced enough for that.
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We're decades away from anything like that. The only relationship you'll have with AI will be strictly generated by you, in the form of some kind of fondness for some arbitrary character.


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I do wonder, though.. in the movies shown thus far, there is some chatter
between the AI stalkers. The original four videos have a lot of the same
phrase repeated ('break left' or 'eat lead' in russian I guess).

The later, longer gameplay videos show chatter too.. I wonder how much
the bots will actually chat at eachother and how much variety there will
be (example: you are hiding in shadows at night along a patrol route for
military. As the squad walks back and forth, will you only hear the same
stuff,. or is there a little randomness to what they say)

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'Eat Lead' and 'Break Left' are just some scripted frontend soundbyte that the AI triggers when it is making a tactical decision (ie, pulling the trigger or flanking). I would imagine that you would hear no chatter when they are just walking around, because there isn't any need for them to be communicating. However, if you do here chatter that's reflective of some recent goings on, that this is a behaviour activated by some event trigger, and that the chatter is pregenerated. The AI doesn't know what it's talking about, it's only playing some soundfile that some programmer triggers after something gets done in order to immerse you in the story. There is no relationship or social aspect to it. It's just blablablablabla. Thereby, again, any personality, intelligence or relationship you think these AI have is purely generated by your subjective appraisal of the appearance of what is happening, not by the AI itself. It's all great theatre.
  19:52:40  6 July 2005
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The AI doesn't know what it's talking about,
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Oh I have no fantasies of real conversation or anything really dynamic.

It was more a question of ai chatter being pure scripted (ie, talking about
the weather N minutes after it storms) or context dependant (ie, ai having
memory of past encounters, stalkers Andrey and Aleksandr mention their
old clanmate Dmitri when passing the place where he was killed)

I guess a question is: in the latest video,is the fireside chat betweeen
the stalkers just scripted for interest, or do they actually talk some
when the player is close enough to hear them
  20:05:37  6 July 2005
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making a tactical decision
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A couple times during fights, the ai shouts something that sounds sort of like 'something
muskatina something'

Can any russian speakers translate what it's saying there ?
  03:10:14  10 July 2005
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I think the relationship between two basic stalkers would be one of, "Hey, he's got stuff I could sell!" *Blam Blam* so-on and so-forth. Clans have rivals and probably ally clans, but other than that, all stalkers will probably be hostile. There might be certain areas similar to towns like scientist camps where stalkers can openly interact, trade, etc. They probably got guards so if someone makes trouble they will mow em down. Still, it would be cool to meet friendly stalkers who just want to trade or something... then after you check out his stuff you shoot him in the back. (No honor among theives, right?)
 
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