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  21:37:23  16 April 2005
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The Controller... balanced?

if the controller seems unbalanced... wahats the point of playing the game if you can't controll your charecter? does this seem unbalanced to everyone else?
  21:50:21  16 April 2005
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The Controller... balanced?

if the controller seems unbalanced... wahats the point of playing the game if you can't controll your charecter? does this seem unbalanced to everyone else?
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Don't worry. They won't over power him, and if they do it would only be a matter of time before someone would mod the game ie someones own patch config
  22:04:12  16 April 2005
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  01:02:16  18 April 2005
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The Controller... balanced?

if the controller seems unbalanced... wahats the point of playing the game if you can't controll your charecter? does this seem unbalanced to everyone else?
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Yeah, better not play the game. Boohoohoo.
  22:51:49  18 April 2005
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The Controller... balanced?

if the controller seems unbalanced... wahats the point of playing the game if you can't controll your charecter? does this seem unbalanced to everyone else?

Yeah, better not play the game. Boohoohoo.
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Whoah, let's make the Stalker have an unforseen, unknown immunity from the controller! Great idea!!!........not.
  00:51:07  19 April 2005
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the point is that the controller seems nivincible, he can sense your presence and controll you? I was just wondering how you would defeat him, if you could enlighten me
  06:47:46  19 April 2005
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The Controller... balanced?

if the controller seems unbalanced... wahats the point of playing the game if you can't controll your charecter? does this seem unbalanced to everyone else?
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Do you have superman syndrome or something, not everygame has the player and being mr invincible, you aren't up the top like a super soldier kinda guy, u r just another stalker, doin the same as all the other stalkers, and a stalker isn't some super machine or magically enhanced soldier either he is just a recruited/hired dude to find artifacts, unlike alot of games where u get to a boss or something and you magically have a super weapon to kill the boss, even if u don't have control of your character, well you can blame that on yourself for letting the controller get u in the first place, the controller isn't meant to be easy, it is a challenge, good games like this arent just run and gun, pick up health run and gun again, recharge on health again...and so on, its about survival, and yeah u say "wats the point in playing the game if u can't control your character" simple solution...don't play the game if u think it's so bad.

Tips to people who whinge about every bloody aspect of the game, stop looking at the bad side of thigns and start looking at the good side cuz when u get the game u will be looking at everything bad about the game, u will rip it apart and u won't enjoy it, BUT if u say good things about it and stuff, well when u get the game you will say..."oh cool u can so this and this, awsome" therefore u will enjoy the game, stop picking at something that isnt even out yet, the game looks bloody awsome, and i don't care even if it has a few little faults or watever it is still awsome in my mind.
  16:51:27  19 April 2005
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the point is that the controller seems nivincible, he can sense your presence and controll you? I was just wondering how you would defeat him, if you could enlighten me
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You AVOID areas with lots of zombies.
  22:02:45  19 April 2005
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the point is that the controller seems nivincible, he can sense your presence and controll you? I was just wondering how you would defeat him, if you could enlighten me

You AVOID areas with lots of zombies.
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You should also scope out an area from higher ground ie little hill bout 600 metres away. That way u can maybe snipe the controller before he sees u. This game is gonna be sniper galore. I can't wait for it. I feel sorry for all those run and gunners out there. They're gonna get wasted if they don't learn to use their trusty Sniper Rifle.
  23:15:18  19 April 2005
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  18:33:53  20 April 2005
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If the gameplay is anything like I've seen in that bloodsucker video, it'll take a clip's worth of brain shots to put a controller down!

I don't get you fools. You complain that you want realism out of what is essentially a zombie game, and then you worry about 'what if the controller is too difficult to kill?' I mean, in reality, you don't freaking look for a way to cross in the front of a downed high-tension powerline. Getting through the area around it would be HARD. You only mess with it if you're equipped for it. Most normal people AVOID death this way. In the same way, if you're not equipped to deal with a threat in this game, considering the vast and nonlinear nature of the zone, I think you should just AVOID the telepathic death machine. You don't get experience for killing it. If it's not sitting on an artifact you need, I don't see any reason to risk your neck to confront it.
  12:08:36  22 April 2005
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True. This may be the first game when you have to realise your not invincible to survive. Sure, all the kids will go bohoo, but that is just fun isnt it? A litle like owning them on counter strike but not even having to do anything..

About the sniper rifle, in games everyone can use a sniper rifle. It is always too easy to use, and i hope they will fix that. Using snipers in multiplayer games is always cowardly and weak, anyone telling themselves they are better than others because they snipe need to think again, it is us playing with normal weapons that contribute to making it a fun match afterall.
  23:32:13  22 April 2005
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When they say "Can control you" its more likely to be "Can control your human allies and enemies but makes your vision go wobbly/projects illusions ect."
  00:25:01  23 April 2005
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When they say "Can control you" its more likely to be "Can control your human allies and enemies but makes your vision go wobbly/projects illusions ect."
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Hehe watch your zombie self eat some people!
  12:39:41  23 April 2005
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Hehe watch your zombie self eat some people!
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You could mod it to have controller powers! Attack military compunds with hordes of loyal zombies!
  14:07:46  23 April 2005
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Nope. The controller affects the player as well.
  17:49:40  25 April 2005
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i agre with fuxor, i think the controller is not a easy job.... its better to let it be... but also think that kill a controller with a snipe is damn easy, the true hard job is to aproach him and kill him.... for that reason i will try to hunt controllers.... i.e: remember in saving private ryan when they discover a radar building with nazis and instead of go around they attack... well if i detect a controller zone i will prepare myself to hunt him... that will do the game more interesting that avoiding the hard zones dont ya think? only will avoid it if im in a middle of a mission or something.
  23:01:42  25 April 2005
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i agre with fuxor, i think the controller is not a easy job.... its better to let it be... but also think that kill a controller with a snipe is damn easy, the true hard job is to aproach him and kill him.... for that reason i will try to hunt controllers.... i.e: remember in saving private ryan when they discover a radar building with nazis and instead of go around they attack... well if i detect a controller zone i will prepare myself to hunt him... that will do the game more interesting that avoiding the hard zones dont ya think? only will avoid it if im in a middle of a mission or something.
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Stay behind cover and lob some grenades in it's general direction. do that in DoD all the time!
  01:13:35  26 April 2005
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the controller can see whatever the zombies can see, and that the controller can sense if you're in the area.... being supremely psychic and all.
  01:46:06  26 April 2005
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the controller can see whatever the zombies can see, and that the controller can sense if you're in the area.... being supremely psychic and all.
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I hope that not the case thats really making the controllers powerful. I mean that means you even have to avoid zombies. I don't think you can go that far with stealth. Unles you decide to grab your SVD or SVU and TRY to sniper from half a km to 800m, you still won't be able get EVERY zombie. You won't. If the controller can see what zombies see not only is that too hard to play with, but then they have to program that into AI and that will only take more time.
  04:17:41  26 April 2005
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I think too that the controller can see thru the ppl he controls, but i dont think he cant feel you near.... that would make him too powerfull... if he can feel you in a 50m perimeter per example, you cant get in a building where he is, as i think he see thru what he controls, i think he have to see what he controls.... so if he dont see you he cant control you
  06:20:19  26 April 2005
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Apparently, you don't even have to really avoid a freaking hind helecopter in this game.. you can take it out with and freaking RPG-7.. I saw video of a hind being hit by an SA-7 and it was shot down, but the pilot was able to control it into a forced landing. Now, that's not exactly an anti tank weapon, but the RPG-7 is not exactly a guided missile.

I sure hope that the controllers are some kind of terrible death machine. Sniping controllers sounds like sniping anything else: A shortcut to thinking (for game developers).
  17:17:13  26 April 2005
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i hope too that controllers would be a killing machines, coz i want build part of my reputation by chasing them.... but also think about others mutants, like snork... nobody talks about this mutant, and also that kind of phantom that even got a pic... how many mutants wont be shown till release date?
  23:11:56  26 April 2005
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i hope too that controllers would be a killing machines, coz i want build part of my reputation by chasing them.... but also think about others mutants, like snork... nobody talks about this mutant, and also that kind of phantom that even got a pic... how many mutants wont be shown till release date?
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I'll make my own Zombie Hunting series called "The Zombie Hunter" starring Steve Irvin. I go up to zombies, wack them in the head with a stick and run away. I repeat the process until the zombie gets tired and leaves.
  23:20:20  26 April 2005
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i hope too that controllers would be a killing machines, coz i want build part of my reputation by chasing them.... but also think about others mutants, like snork... nobody talks about this mutant, and also that kind of phantom that even got a pic... how many mutants wont be shown till release date?

I'll make my own Zombie Hunting series called "The Zombie Hunter" starring Steve Irvin. I go up to zombies, wack them in the head with a stick and run away. I repeat the process until the zombie gets tired and leaves.
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I don't know if you're kidding or not but that's a pretty good idea. Personally, I'm going to load up the game with some cheats, then make a nature video or something.

"Croky, look at that pack of dogs! I'm going to go poke one and see what it does. Man, these things look bloody dangourous! <POKE> AAAAHHHHH AHHHHHHAH OH GOD HELP ME, AAAAHHHHH!!!!!! MY LEG MY LEG!!!

Also, if the controller gets you, maybe u just start from your last save point.
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i hope too that controllers would be a killing machines, coz i want build part of my reputation by chasing them.... but also think about others mutants, like snork... nobody talks about this mutant, and also that kind of phantom that even got a pic... how many mutants wont be shown till release date?

I'll make my own Zombie Hunting series called "The Zombie Hunter" starring Steve Irvin. I go up to zombies, wack them in the head with a stick and run away. I repeat the process until the zombie gets tired and leaves.


I don't know if you're kidding or not but that's a pretty good idea. Personally, I'm going to load up the game with some cheats, then make a nature video or something.

"Croky, look at that pack of dogs! I'm going to go poke one and see what it does. Man, these things look bloody dangourous! <POKE> AAAAHHHHH AHHHHHHAH OH GOD HELP ME, AAAAHHHHH!!!!!! MY LEG MY LEG!!!

Also, if the controller gets you, maybe u just start from your last save point.
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"We've got ouselves the Eastern Pseudo Giant right ahead of us. WOW! What a beauty! Today, I'm going to attempt to go up to the Giant from behind, unnoticed and wack him square in the head! But I have to be careful cause this little cutey has been known to attack when it feels threatened. Here is my first attempt. *creeps slowly behind Pseudo Giant and wacks it in the head* Lookie that folks! Square im the head! *giant turns around and eats Steve Irving* "Cranky! What a b*tch!" says Steve from inside the giants stomach.
  23:55:43  29 April 2005
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i think that if the controller take you, you die, you cant be waiting till someone saves you... and with time youll become a zombie so i think death and reload the game is the only way
  12:10:10  30 April 2005
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i think that if the controller take you, you die, you cant be waiting till someone saves you... and with time youll become a zombie so i think death and reload the game is the only way
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No i disagree with that, i reckon what would be cool is that if a controller gets you, you don't die but you actually wake up in a random location, not having a clue where you are u get up and try to figure out what to do...gosh imagine that....
U r playing the game and u run into a controller,....oh crap, it starts to get you in control and poof u black out after all the otehr wierd stuff, next minute after a few heartbeats it goes silent...the level loads and you wake up in a different area...but when u wake up it is pitch black, u have no idea where u r and all you can hear is rustling grass...next thing u turn around and you see the creepy friking eyes of a bloodsucker as it whacks you into death.

"Alllroight, todays episode i'm going to uncover the mystery of the bloodysucker, they have been known to be very qck as they just disappear if caught....so, we actually have one in this house up ahead, i'm going to go in there and get right up close to 'im....."*walks into the house wher ethe bloodsucker is and stands behind the doorway to the room*...."(whispers) alright we are extremely close and this could turn out ugly, if u get scared alot, then i suggest turning off your TV right now!...ok guys im moving in.... *creeps up really close, crouches over the sleeping bloodsucker, makes a few movements.....and moves out of way from the camera, revealing a bloodsucker with the tentacles on it's mouth tied together and it's hands and legs twisted up* ..."(giggles, trying to restrain a laugh).......BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!....", *blooducker wakes up, and tries to move but cannot due to itself being tied up* ..." OH CRIKEY!!! she...he...its woken up, AAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! look....it can't move.....like i said kids don't try this at home, it's very dangerous...*whack!! crunch, bang!*, "uh...oi!...OI! camera man, what the *BEEP* are you *BEEP*in doing, get the *BEEP* up....(turns around to see several more bloodsuckers surrounding him) "OH *BEEP* this.....*oommpph, ....aarrrg, *BEEP* * BEEP* *BEEEEP* (later on, camera is pointing towards steve and his camera man, they are tied up by each others clothes and are in a tangled mess, steve looks up at camera) "This is why i say don't try this at home, after all who wants to be a pretzill (camera man) GET OFF ME!! you bloody POOF! (steve) i'm not a bloody poof, it's the bloody controller's fault, thats what it is,...them bloodysuckers couldnt do *BEEP* if they tried.....(camera man) uh steve, why are your pants down....(later oon after untagling themselves, and have gotten back to home, they check the recording....to reveal something very disturbing (camera man) steve....what is that bloodysucker doing to you....steve............steve *runs out to balcony to see steve has jumped off the 60th storey of the building and landed headfirst onto the top of a car).....

I'm not saying the rest...im sure you all have some sick imagination, trust me it isnt what you are thinking either, you sick bastards...
  15:41:27  30 April 2005
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i desagree with you, lets see.. the controller is a mutant.. is more like an animal than a human... i think he couldnt be compared with a human at all... so, as an animal he cant have compasion for his victims.
So if he control ppl and then they become zombies coz the controller destroy his minds. why it would be diferent with you? you are just a body like many others, why he would leave you free... he needs you to use you and if he cant use you then he kills you or destroy your mind to make you a zombie. He uses zombies to keep his zone free of visitants, when a zombie see soomething he send a message to the controller and they will do nothing till the controller give the order. So, more zombies more perimeter controled and more defenses he have, so i dont think he could comet the pleasure of leave you free.
  16:29:24  30 April 2005
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I've never felt more ashamed of been an Australian than this.... :d
  00:50:28  1 May 2005
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If the gameplay is anything like I've seen in that bloodsucker video, it'll take a clip's worth of brain shots to put a controller down!

I don't get you fools. You complain that you want realism out of what is essentially a zombie game, and then you worry about 'what if the controller is too difficult to kill?' I mean, in reality, you don't freaking look for a way to cross in the front of a downed high-tension powerline. Getting through the area around it would be HARD. You only mess with it if you're equipped for it. Most normal people AVOID death this way. In the same way, if you're not equipped to deal with a threat in this game, considering the vast and nonlinear nature of the zone, I think you should just AVOID the telepathic death machine. You don't get experience for killing it. If it's not sitting on an artifact you need, I don't see any reason to risk your neck to confront it.
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your completely right
  06:44:32  1 May 2005
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i desagree with you, lets see.. the controller is a mutant.. is more like an animal than a human... i think he couldnt be compared with a human at all... so, as an animal he cant have compasion for his victims.
So if he control ppl and then they become zombies coz the controller destroy his minds. why it would be diferent with you? you are just a body like many others, why he would leave you free... he needs you to use you and if he cant use you then he kills you or destroy your mind to make you a zombie. He uses zombies to keep his zone free of visitants, when a zombie see soomething he send a message to the controller and they will do nothing till the controller give the order. So, more zombies more perimeter controled and more defenses he have,
so i dont think he could comet the pleasure of leave you free.
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Rrright, well, there could be a variety of reasons that you would live, you arent dead yet, meaning u have a mind, a mind that lives, you could possibly have a strong mind, i dunno, but you are a living being and one thing i forgot to mention was a way to determine whther you live or continue to stay under control (die), a mini game soughtof thing, where once you are under control you go through all the screaming and hullucination etc etc, then you blank out, taking you to a short but very hard mini game...the difficulty of this mini game depends on the condition your player was in when you blacked out (if you has crap all health and were basically dead neway, the game would be extremely hard to beat, and vice-versa), in this mini game, you would have to do something, something like, kill all the enemies in a place, (small room or something) before they kill you and if you manage to kill them you might have to go to another mini game (depending on the difficulty) and the next mini game might require you to kill 1 enemy or several enemies only using a knife, i could go on about mini games for ages, but the last mini game would be like a labrynth, a complex escape route, which means you would have to find the door out (the white light, which saves your life and you wake up after a few days or watever) this door will eitehr be a dark door with darkness behind it, a door that has bright red behind it, or a room with a bright white light..the red one leads to another mini game, the black one leads to death, the white one leads to life...
Just imagine it, it could be a game in itself, gosh even us map makers could do stuff like that if we wanted....depending on the resources and options available in the editor.
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Rrright, well, there could be a variety of reasons that you would live, you arent dead yet, meaning u have a mind, a mind that lives, you could possibly have a strong mind, i dunno, but you are a living being and one thing i forgot to mention was a way to determine whther you live or continue to stay under control (die), a mini game soughtof thing, where once you are under control you go through all the screaming and hullucination etc etc, then you blank out, taking you to a short but very hard mini game...

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I think when GSC says that the controller destroys your mind, they mean it. It's destroyed, meaning no longer existent, meaning no longer living.


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the difficulty of this mini game depends on the condition your player was in when you blacked out (if you has crap all health and were basically dead neway, the game would be extremely hard to beat, and vice-versa), in this mini game, you would have to do something, something like, kill all the enemies in a place, (small room or something) before they kill you and if you manage to kill them you might have to go to another mini game (depending on the difficulty) and the next mini game might require you to kill 1 enemy or several enemies only using a knife, i could go on about mini games for ages, but the last mini game would be like a labrynth, a complex escape route, which means you would have to find the door out (the white light, which saves your life and you wake up after a few days or watever) this door will eitehr be a dark door with darkness behind it, a door that has bright red behind it, or a room with a bright white light..the red one leads to another mini game, the black one leads to death, the white one leads to life...
Just imagine it, it could be a game in itself, gosh even us map makers could do stuff like that if we wanted....depending on the resources and options available in the editor.
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Holy fucking off topic, batman. To coin a phrase, "stop smoking crack and go to english class."

English class not only teaches you to write coherent sentences with punctuation... no, it also allows you to read topic titles! That's right! READ as well as WRITE!
  09:59:56  2 May 2005
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if i had to play a minigame everytime a controller get me i would prefer to reload the old game

also think that most of the ''problems'' that developers have or had in the game to delayed it was because the controller complexity in ground therms, im about 20 or maybe 30%, what ya think?
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if i had to play a minigame everytime a controller get me i would prefer to reload the old game

also think that most of the ''problems'' that developers have or had in the game to delayed it was because the controller complexity in ground therms, im about 20 or maybe 30%, what ya think?
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Yeah I think most of their problems were AI related. I mean they probably have the game all set-up. The missions are ready and implemented. The world is done probably. I think that once the AI is done the release is imminent. If they don't fix the AI problem by Fall then they are having some serious problems. Problems that could ruin Stalker.
  07:11:18  3 May 2005
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Maveric
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Holy fucking off topic, batman.
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Indeed.

IMO the Controller only needs to be beatable, not ballanced.
Remember HalfLife, and how there was this big, nasty, flame-throwing monster called a Garg?

A Garg - for those that dont know - had flame-throwers for hands, and could kill a 100/100 player within seconds. What's more is that they were immune to any non-explosive damage. This means that you had to use all of your:
1 Hand Grenades
2 SMG Grenades
3 Rockets
4 Non-zoomed (and thus explosive) Crossbow bolts.
[5 Tripwires]
[6 Satchels]

In order to even slightly damage it. Otherwise, you just had to run away from it's flame thrower hands and it's feet, since it was way slower then you were. So, the Controller is Stalker's "Garg". Just figure out what tactics work/dont work against the Controller when you fight him, and keep testing for weaknesses with different things. Who knows, he could move very slowly, allowing you to out-run him. Or, his "zombify" attack could be very short ranged (making melee suicide) Or even a simple knife-stab into his spine could kill him instantly.
It might not even like radiation much, making the Tomb - ironically - a safer place then it seems to be.

And surely, with all the weapons you've been given, and the possible alliances with other Stalkers, you could easilly out-gun and out-man a Controller.
  08:46:13  16 May 2005
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vasillij
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See it like this, the controller uses psi forces to his advantage.
That means, whenever you are visible to him, he can use his powers on you. Devs has said that the controller destroys your mind right? But.. He can also control you, like this.

You see a controller and being unlucky as you always are, the controller sees you! He goes into your brain leaving you like a zombie, but that's not it. Since he can do whatever he wants now, he places inn an open field, after a while. Tons of zombies comes to, waiting to get they're dinner served.

So the controller being a "little" powerfull, can be kinda neat, if you like hard enemies, and like to use tactics.
  09:14:44  16 May 2005
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Fux0r666
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See it like this, the controller uses psi forces to his advantage.
That means, whenever you are visible to him, he can use his powers on you. Devs has said that the controller destroys your mind right? But.. He can also control you, like this.

You see a controller and being unlucky as you always are, the controller sees you! He goes into your brain leaving you like a zombie, but that's not it. Since he can do whatever he wants now, he places inn an open field, after a while. Tons of zombies comes to, waiting to get they're dinner served.

So the controller being a "little" powerfull, can be kinda neat, if you like hard enemies, and like to use tactics.
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  16:56:53  16 May 2005
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Bleeda
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the controller is the best, i wana meet one... in close combat
  20:30:33  16 May 2005
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vasillij
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Sure... If you survived the mind attack and jumping PSI waves is really easy...

But we could always try
  15:45:13  17 May 2005
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Bleeda
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i one of those that believe that controller cant sense you, he just control what he sees... if isnt that its too powerfull, so close combat is posible
  10:59:11  23 May 2005
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darkmonkey
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Controller smart??????

But if it is smart it may only go after u if it sees u as a full on danger. it may leave u alone in case u have some pals ready to bomb the hole area to a radoative vaper

  09:17:35  24 May 2005
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any npc or mutant evaluate the situation over every enemy, weapon healt, sizes, numer, everything counts to attack someone, if you attack first is another matter
  15:04:28  24 May 2005
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darkmonkey
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defence from psi control attack


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Q: Is it possible to counteract psychological attacks, or even take other beings under control?
A: There will be methods of defense, but currently we do not plan to implement control over others.
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Found this in the FAQ i think it must mean some sourght of defence to try and stop psi attacks

if because of this u could try and draw a stalker into the contolers range and bingo u have one less stalker to bother about
  20:28:18  24 May 2005
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in some of the last Q/A they said that you can fight off the controller psy powers to get out of his control
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[quote}And surely, with all the weapons you've been given, and the possible alliances with other Stalkers, you could easilly out-gun and out-man a Controller.
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That tactic is just not possible, as the range of the telekinetics are more likely unique to the controller...And you really have no idea of how close you need to be until you get controlled....And also, it most likely can take multiple people over at once, so rushing as a team is prolly a BAD idea.
 
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