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  01:53:00  12 January 2005
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Resident Nobody
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A bit off-topic, but....:

Has anyone access to P90 (or other modern weapons)?
I'm modeling P90 in 3dsmax and however ridiculous it may sound, I have searched web like mad, bud could find images from some view points (have found tons from side view).

If someone has access to p90 and could take some shots..., it would be great!

Thanks.
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Uh, i got some close up pics. I dont own one though, I know a few people though, what shots do you need?
  09:41:00  12 January 2005
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ulukai
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Uh, i got some close up pics. I dont own one though, I know a few people though, what shots do you need?
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Well, any good (800x600) pics would help, but these especially:

1.) shots from these angles:
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/p90_01.jpg[/link]
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/p90_04.jpg[/link]
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/p90_05.jpg[/link]

2.) close-ups of these parts
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/p90_02.jpg[/link]
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/p90_03.jpg[/link]


I rendered those images from "pre-production" stage of modeling, where I try to find the basic shapes, so these by no means represent the final quality of this product


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In previous post I have written: ".... searched web like mad, bud could find images from some..." - but it should be: ".... mad, bud could NOT find...."
  14:31:17  12 January 2005
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Ok, well i dont think i can get SPECIFIC pics of those areas but these might help. And one thing that i see is missing the most from your model is the charging handle, thats the thing that you use to rack a new round into the chamber.

[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/IMG_2995.JPG[/link]
This is a P90R that i got my hands on at the Knob Creek shoot last year. The R is the rail system at the top of the mag well. the thing that my right index finger is touching is the charging handle.

[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/IMG_2996.JPG[/link]
This will give you a decent view of the very front, This model has the integral laser in the front of the weapon (thats the little trapiziodal plate right below the muzzle).

[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/fn_p90.JPG[/link]
This is the original P90. Notice the lack of any rail system and no integral laser. though it does have an integrated reflex sight, but it sucked.

[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/laser.JPG[/link]
Again showing hte front with the laser which has become a standered feature.

[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/FNP90_10.JPG[/link]
Look at that piss poor trigger disciplin. anyway, a shot from a trade show.

[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/FNP90_4.JPG[/link]
David Crane shooting a newer tri-rail version (P90L) with an Aimpoint.

[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/FNP90_5.JPG[/link]
From the back.

Ok the next are some interesting conversions i found. These are prototypes that were developed early in the program. I kind of like them, they are definatly interesting looking.

[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/02-top.JPG[/link]
This was definatly an interesting variation. Notice that hte rear grip was broken away from the rear receiver and the lack of a front grip. that front covering looks like a rifle forward grip.

[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/top.JPG[/link]
This is the line of thought that lead to the current smooth gripped approach.

[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/fn_civil_p90.JPG[/link]
This is the up and comming civi version of the p90. Just to kind of show the evolutionary progression of hte P90's unique erganomics.

Open the last 3 pics in diffrent windows and flip from the first pic to the last one, its an interesting progresion.

Hope you found this slightly helpful.
  17:16:26  12 January 2005
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ulukai
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Thank you very,very much for all those pics. I found most useful IMG_2995.JPG and IMG_2996.JPG. It's really rare to find images of that resolution on web.



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And one thing that i see is missing the most from your model is the charging handle, thats the thing that you use to rack a new round into the chamber
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Will be there for sure.


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Ok the next are some interesting conversions i found. These are prototypes that were developed early in the program. I kind of like them, they are definatly interesting looking.
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Never seen those pics before, thanx. I like them too. I don't know why, but they somehow remind me of some other weapon... can't remember the name..... (maybe TAR-21 or SAR-21?)


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[link]http://www.freewebs.com/x5060/top.JPG[/link]
This is the line of thought that lead to the current smooth gripped approach.
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I like this one.

BTW that's you and your beard on IMG_2995.JPG ?

AND THANKS
  18:41:20  12 January 2005
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BTW that's you and your beard on IMG_2995.JPG ?

AND THANKS
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yep, that should be him.
  21:57:11  12 January 2005
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Resident Nobody
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Ok the next are some interesting conversions i found. These are prototypes that were developed early in the program. I kind of like them, they are definatly interesting looking.Never seen those pics before, thanx. I like them too. I don't know why, but they somehow remind me of some other weapon... can't remember the name..... (maybe TAR-21 or SAR-21?)
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Are you talking about hte Tavor? It was developed by Israel, its a really nifty weapon that is a mix of the Israeli made Galil, the British SA80, and the South American Vector. its a pretty nifty weapon.

[link]http://www.imi-israel.com/images/tarbig.jpg[/link]
This is the standered tavor.


[link]http://www.imi-israel.com/images/microbig.jpg[/link]
This is the Microtavor.



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BTW that's you and your beard on IMG_2995.JPG ?

AND THANKS
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yeah thats me and my beard.
  22:33:04  12 January 2005
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ulukai
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Are you talking about hte Tavor? It was developed by Israel, its a really nifty weapon that is a mix of the Israeli made Galil, the British SA80, and the South American Vector. its a pretty nifty weapon.

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Yes, I was talking about Tavor. Both Tavor and SAR-21 (by Singapore Technologies Kinetics) are nifty.

Also I have never hold any weapon (except airgun, but that doesn't count ), I somehow like some of the "cool" weapons (in similar way as you "like" a car for example). Some of my favourite weapons: Glocks, Berreta 92 FS, Desert Eagle, P90, HK MP-5N, Steyr AUG, XM8, FAMAS, Bofors AK5D.......

BTW: How do you like Beretta Cx4 Storm? Pretty gun .
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/CX4_2.gif[/link]
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/CX4_3.gif[/link]
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/CX4_10.gif[/link]
  23:13:41  12 January 2005
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Also I have never hold any weapon (except airgun, but that doesn't count ), I somehow like some of the "cool" weapons (in similar way as you "like" a car for example). Some of my favourite weapons: Glocks, Berreta 92 FS, Desert Eagle, P90, HK MP-5N, Steyr AUG, XM8, FAMAS, Bofors AK5D.......
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Glocks = icky
Deasrt Eagle = cliche
FAMAS = PIECE OF CRAP


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BTW: How do you like Beretta Cx4 Storm? Pretty gun .
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/CX4_2.gif[/link]
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/CX4_3.gif[/link]
[link]http://test333.szm.sk/CX4_10.gif[/link]
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Its a decent gun but there are a few draw backs.

1) no factory 30 round mags (it uses Beretta 96 mags)
2) Trigger is sloppy at best.
3) No collapsible stock and also that stock has been known to break.
  00:05:37  13 January 2005
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ulukai
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Glocks = icky
Deasrt Eagle = cliche
FAMAS = PIECE OF CRAP
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Can't help myself with the glocks (17,19), they don't look somehow exceptional, but I like them.
Eagle - yes cliche, I don't like it as much as it could look from my post, it's more like I would like to try and shoot a few bullets from it (just to know how it feels).
FAMAS - is it really so bad?. I just liked it's terse design, don't like it anymore


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Its a decent gun but there are a few draw backs.
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Well, I just like it's shape.
  03:00:31  13 January 2005
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Glocks = icky
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