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  19:38:05  5 February 2015
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Byte Me
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Normally (as it was intended), the guy would disappear before you could interact with him, finally he does that since the 3rd patch came out in august 2014. So it does not matter what he has in his profile, it could have "lol" or "da*uq", since player should not be able to see it. But yea, I get what you mean.
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Alright then, let's look at what's on the chopping block here.
Yes I remember in an early patch actually getting to this NPC after he'd been the victim of a blowout and popped his hollow trenchcoat.
Can't remember what he had in his pockets (I vaguely remember the game CTDing when I tried), had to waste a perfectly good Mil garrison to do it too.

As far as LA goes - whether it's a WIP or not - what will attract the player's attention the most? A pack of blind dogs running around an electro cluster, a rat infested shed with a Stubby in it, or the mysterious character with the field glasses on yonder rooftop, apparently being sanctioned by the Military?
The player is going to go all out to gain data that improves his/her playing experience, deepens the plot, maybe, and even try and sneak up from behind.
This is after all STALKER Dez; expecting the player to "not be able" to divine these infonuggets just ain't realistic. It's part of the game, ANY GAME, to improve your intel, resources, capabilities, mobility, resistance and any of another dozen dimensional factors in the polymatrix of your character.

To drop a bombshell like "He isn't Sin" just implodes your plot and downgrades your creation unnecessarily. For all we know Sin work for the 'enlightered'.
GG, their position is painted as such that they were so hard done by that they might have turned against their race.

So how are you going to sort this out? Can any of us here help you do this?
  22:43:34  5 February 2015
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ddraig
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For what it's worth, I think the big reveal is pretty stupid. The implementation of the guy tracking you and being a mysterious figure (I notice he's referred to as "gman" in game files, which I like) is pretty neat, but when I got to the ending I was pretty stupefied.

What makes the Zone great, at least in SoC, was that you would probably never truly understand what the hell was going on. You got a brief glimpse of it in the true ending, but the Zone is just this huge monolithic entity that just is, and it completely and utterly baffles the world. Nobody knows what it is, nobody knows why it is, it just is and everything science thought it knew is turned completely on its head.

To find out it was the illuminati or whatever was just terrible.
  02:25:07  7 February 2015
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Roadkilll
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Same , Iluminati was a deal breaker for me too.I liked C-Con being behind it better...

Still not bad, but could use some improvements
  17:47:24  7 February 2015
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Vikingstalker
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Same , Iluminati was a deal breaker for me too.I liked C-Con being behind it better...

Still not bad, but could use some improvements
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So you never wondered who was behind the C-Con then?
  19:19:08  7 February 2015
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Byte Me
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Same , Iluminati was a deal breaker for me too.I liked C-Con being behind it better...

Still not bad, but could use some improvements

So you never wondered who was behind the C-Con then?
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Outstanding sir
  05:29:24  8 February 2015
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ddraig
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Weird top secret stuff from the Cold War era or before is proof positive that there doesn't need to be some secret elite behind something like the C-Con.
  15:39:08  8 February 2015
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There isn't anyone 'behind' C-Con. They were a bunch of scientists who made a discovery and decided to remove all of the negatives from the noosphere. There was no shadowy 'overlord' giving them instructions. Once they had merged their consciounesses to become the C-Con, any possible 'overlord' would have been considerably less powerful than themselves and thus superseded.

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  17:20:46  8 February 2015
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Byte Me
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There isn't anyone 'behind' C-Con. They were a bunch of scientists who made a discovery and decided to remove all of the negatives from the noosphere. There was no shadowy 'overlord' giving them instructions. Once they had merged their consciounesses to become the C-Con, any possible 'overlord' would have been considerably less powerful than themselves and thus superseded.

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I wholeheartedly agree with your basic premise.
Except:
The scientists didn't fund themselves. Someone ponied up a lot of moolah and even more equipment and would have lost its tracks expertly since there is little mention of it, except that X18 stuff came from X16 (in SoC)

The "Illuminati" (who aren't) would look a LOT less "illuminati-ish" if just the pig latin was excluded from their cutscene. Then they're just boxed consciousnesses with unimaginative decals slapped on for vanity purposes.
  17:33:48  8 February 2015
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There isn't anyone 'behind' C-Con. They were a bunch of scientists who made a discovery and decided to remove all of the negatives from the noosphere. There was no shadowy 'overlord' giving them instructions. Once they had merged their consciounesses to become the C-Con, any possible 'overlord' would have been considerably less powerful than themselves and thus superseded.

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I wholeheartedly agree with your basic premise.
Except:
The scientists didn't fund themselves. Someone ponied up a lot of moolah and even more equipment and would have lost its tracks expertly since there is little mention of it, except that X18 stuff came from X16 (in SoC)

The "Illuminati" (who aren't) would look a LOT less "illuminati-ish" if just the pig latin was excluded from their cutscene. Then they're just boxed consciousnesses with unimaginative decals slapped on for vanity purposes.
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I always took it that the X-labs were set up by the Soviet government as part of their military-industrial complex. When the scientists became C-Con they no longer took orders from the Supreme Soviet and went their own way - thus the government's own troops engaged in trying to reach the Zone's centre. Plus the many military corpses, that are part of the scenery in several maps (Yantar and X-16 spring immediately to mind), from previous attempts.

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  17:46:46  8 February 2015
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Byte Me
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There isn't anyone 'behind' C-Con. They were a bunch of scientists who made a discovery and decided to remove all of the negatives from the noosphere. There was no shadowy 'overlord' giving them instructions. Once they had merged their consciounesses to become the C-Con, any possible 'overlord' would have been considerably less powerful than themselves and thus superseded.

.

I wholeheartedly agree with your basic premise.
Except:
The scientists didn't fund themselves. Someone ponied up a lot of moolah and even more equipment and would have lost its tracks expertly since there is little mention of it, except that X18 stuff came from X16 (in SoC)

The "Illuminati" (who aren't) would look a LOT less "illuminati-ish" if just the pig latin was excluded from their cutscene. Then they're just boxed consciousnesses with unimaginative decals slapped on for vanity purposes.

I always took it that the X-labs were set up by the Soviet government as part of their military-industrial complex. When the scientists became C-Con they no longer took orders from the Supreme Soviet and went their own way - thus the government's own troops engaged in trying to reach the Zone's centre. Plus the many military corpses, that are part of the scenery in several maps (Yantar and X-16 spring immediately to mind), from previous attempts.

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Certainly,
But after 1991 there isn't a Supreme Soviet.
My understanding was that the NPP 'problem' in 1986 provided cover because of the exclusion Zone's being created / designated.

OT (I thought the control room cutscene was entertaining if only for Strelok getting the blame for that too)
 
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