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  23:22:14  24 August 2010
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Kane4
"Order of the Liquidators" and Dez0wave Tester
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08/24/2010 23:24:30
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I already said that I gave him good credit for the hud and the graphics. If people really like modding it, they can go ahead and do it. It's just that they should know that his stealth won't be any different than stealth in other mods. Same for AI. In general I like his mod. It does have some original things in it, but only esthetical. It also has a good choice of mods to enhance gameplay.
  23:15:50  24 August 2010
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Teh Soul Eater
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On forum: 03/21/2010
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Kane, Holden worked hard on this, even if it does have alot of other people's content. I don't see you trolling Ceano for making a mod. Don't do it to holden. The stealth works almost as good as it ever will, I can assure you of that. Sure, like Rahu X admitted, your invisible in shadows, but that doesn't matter. It's still fun, much better than that piece of shit that used the title "Oblivion Lost", which, using that title, is promising much more than Kanyhalos could ever deliver.
  22:56:03  24 August 2010
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Kane4
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I'm sure they will.
  22:47:55  24 August 2010
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Holden
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I see the old tryhards are tryharding as usual. It's like they never left. Keep fighting that war.

Well I'm glad Darius and Rahu seem to have some cool stuff in mind.
  20:49:10  24 August 2010
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Kane4
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08/24/2010 21:08:07
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Stealth will not be any better than any other stealth you've seen before. People said it again and again, that Stalker wasn't made for stealth. You'll either make the NPC's too dumb or too perceptive. And yet we see maniacal desire to create that, which can't and never will be created on this engine. Same goes for AI. I say ditch this mod, and just use it's esthetic feautures. Instead of fixing this mod, it's better to just merge the mods that made it, without the revolutionary gibberish that will never work. If you don't believe me, ask dezodor, for example, and he'll tell you that stealth can't be made any better than it already is. The best thing that can enhance stealth properly is well commented sounds.
  19:41:42  24 August 2010
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Rahu X
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On forum: 07/13/2009
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Hey, I could actually do the sound work for L.U.R.K Enhanced, if you ever get around making one.
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To have such a great modder as yourself offer your services to me. Well, I'm speechless.

If I do get around to it though, having your amazing work in it is a definite yes.


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Also take note that arsenal mod screws up ballistics and makes most modded guns have unrealstic characteristics. The dead on accuracy at long ranges and other things make this mod a mess. I wouln't try implementing it at all. Unless someone really took the time and trouble to fix it properly.
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Agreed with Arsenal stats being messed up. And actually, L.U.R.K. 1.0552 with the gunmod that someone made for it has pretty damn good ballistics to it. That was another thing the older version had going for it was better ballistics as well.

And hey, if I ever get around to it, if anyone else wants to help or contribute something to it, feel free to join in.
  19:33:27  24 August 2010
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Lijenstina
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And if you want to gripe about a mod that's just a collection of overused things, take it up with OL or SMP. At least L.U.R.K. brought a bit of originality with it.

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We'll see about that.
  19:19:47  24 August 2010
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Kane4
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08/24/2010 19:20:56
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Also take note that arsenal mod screws up ballistics and makes most modded guns have unrealstic characteristics. The dead on accuracy at long ranges and other things make this mod a mess. I wouln't try implementing it at all. Unless someone really took the time and trouble to fix it properly.
  19:14:21  24 August 2010
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Darius6
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I don't see how it's difficult to implement best feautures from 1.0552 in 1.1. Just copy the hud, anims and other esthetical feautures to 1.0552, leaving AI intact. Oh, and add arena extension for more grooveness if you want to. There! I just made LURK 1.2!I was actually thinking about doing that whenever I get time to. But I want to throw in some cut features if possible. Like weapon upgrades and blowouts. And that requires merging out the ass.

If I can get time between fixing current 1.1 problems, and play testing the new Rebalanced, then I may just make a L.U.R.K. Enhanced or something.
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Hey, I could actually do the sound work for L.U.R.K Enhanced, if you ever get around making one.
  19:07:50  24 August 2010
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Rahu X
PATROLLING THE MOJAVE ALMOST MAKES YOU WISH FOR A NUCLEAR WINTER
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On forum: 07/13/2009
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I don't see how it's difficult to implement best feautures from 1.0552 in 1.1. Just copy the hud, anims and other esthetical feautures to 1.0552, leaving AI intact. Oh, and add arena extension for more grooveness if you want to. There! I just made LURK 1.2!
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I was actually thinking about doing that whenever I get time to. But I want to throw in some cut features if possible. Like weapon upgrades and blowouts. And that requires merging out the ass.

If I can get time between fixing current 1.1 problems, and play testing the new Rebalanced, then I may just make a L.U.R.K. Enhanced or something.
 
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