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  11:42:40  28 July 2013
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CakeLizard
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So, AlternativA mod. Anyone hear of it?

I decided to register to see if any of the regular STALKER mod translators have found it yet?

Generally I lurk around here to find my mods, and this little gem was revealed to me by a friend.

http://www.alternativa-mod.ru/mod.php

I'm not entirely sure what to think, but, it's pretty nifty.
  00:21:39  30 July 2013
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starting game

has anyone tried to run this mod,i have spent hours trying to get it to run but no go which is a shame as it seems to be a great mod.
  00:00:53  1 August 2013
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crashes on startup.
seems to have missing weapons subfolders and files.
even the patches don't help
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Yeah. I haven't quite tried my luck yet, but with the limited info I have, I believe it only works with 1.004? I've seen gameplay of it from Russian let's players.

And I explored their website with google translating it, so anything I say could be 100% wrong. But I'm gonna start the download today.
  15:17:23  1 August 2013
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patch


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crashes on startup.
seems to have missing weapons subfolders and files.
even the patches don't help

Yeah. I haven't quite tried my luck yet, but with the limited info I have, I believe it only works with 1.004? I've seen gameplay of it from Russian let's players.

And I explored their website with google translating it, so anything I say could be 100% wrong. But I'm gonna start the download today.
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it definitely only works on patch 1.0004 I have had the start up screen but it crashes on loading as there seems to be missing files, hope someone gets this working.
  03:48:48  4 August 2013
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patch


it definitely only works on patch 1.0004 I have had the start up screen but it crashes on loading as there seems to be missing files, hope someone gets this working.
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Yeah. That's a shame. I still haven't gotten around to trying too hard yet. My bad.
I do wanna draw some attention to this though.
  04:27:15  4 August 2013
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I downloaded a few weeks back and when it wouldn't work moved on, If someone figures the problem out remember to post it here for everyone please.
  17:12:33  4 August 2013
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Never heard of it, but i dl-ed this mod.

Works with the russian version of SOC, with patch 1.0004.

I started the game on a completely unknown map, with a detector and a sleepbag. I have nothing more, but i have tasks, and of course i don't understand anything.

As i checked the maps, this mod is based on the same buggy mappack, to which AMK NS and Tecnobacon's mod is built, with unverified ai maps and bad graphs, with some extra added maps (the map count is brutal 41 maps).

Which version did you download guys? Nothing is missing from the torrent version.
  15:46:35  5 August 2013
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Never heard of it, but i dl-ed this mod.

Works with the russian version of SOC, with patch 1.0004.

I started the game on a completely unknown map, with a detector and a sleepbag. I have nothing more, but i have tasks, and of course i don't understand anything.

As i checked the maps, this mod is based on the same buggy mappack, to which AMK NS and Tecnobacon's mod is built, with unverified ai maps and bad graphs, with some extra added maps (the map count is brutal 41 maps).

Which version did you download guys? Nothing is missing from the torrent version.
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does this only work with the Russian version of soc or does anyone know how to get it to work with the English version as I am having trouble trying to find a download for the Russian version.
  16:05:28  5 August 2013
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version
does this only work with the Russian version of soc or does anyone know how to get it to work with the English version
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I can't tell how to make it work on WW version, but on russian 1.0004 SOC it works flawless. The included xrGame.dll not needed, it changes only FOV which causes fish-eye view.

The mod doesn't need special binaries, so it should run perfectly on WW 1.0004 too, if you dl the correct mod version.

I dl-ed it from here, both part needed, and no folder is missing:

http://yadi.sk/d/0ks2hsoj2enQV
http://yadi.sk/d/eXtZ-_xq2eq5S

or torrent (registration required on rutracker, which is easy):
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4356399

I have a machine translation already, and now i understand some things - i can name my character, i have no tasks, the mod is starting after SOC storyline. Original storyline is removed, the first npc contact in the game is Strelok himself, after a greeting he runs out from the zone.
The first map is a big self-made map with military patrols, with female characters, to whom you can offer sex (serious), with a black market trader named Sultan. I couldn't find my way into the Zone yet, as the military don't let me pass through the gate. The foreroom map is empty a bit, but the mod looks good and "not usual".
  19:38:45  5 August 2013
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not working


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version
does this only work with the Russian version of soc or does anyone know how to get it to work with the English version

I can't tell how to make it work on WW version, but on russian 1.0004 SOC it works flawless. The included xrGame.dll not needed, it changes only FOV which causes fish-eye view.

The mod doesn't need special binaries, so it should run perfectly on WW 1.0004 too, if you dl the correct mod version.

I dl-ed it from here, both part needed, and no folder is missing:

http://yadi.sk/d/0ks2hsoj2enQV
http://yadi.sk/d/eXtZ-_xq2eq5S

or torrent (registration required on rutracker, which is easy):
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4356399

I have a machine translation already, and now i understand some things - i can name my character, i have no tasks, the mod is starting after SOC storyline. Original storyline is removed, the first npc contact in the game is Strelok himself, after a greeting he runs out from the zone.
The first map is a big self-made map with military patrols, with female characters, to whom you can offer sex (serious), with a black market trader named Sultan. I couldn't find my way into the Zone yet, as the military don't let me pass through the gate. The foreroom map is empty a bit, but the mod looks good and "not usual".
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downloaded the files you suggested and they where bigger than the original ones on here so I thought it might work but but it ctd asking for string table xml file ui_st_mm_mp.xml for Russian language so it is not working on English version could anyone send me the Russian language files as I have tried everywhere to download the Russian version of soc.
  20:12:12  5 August 2013
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not working

but it ctd asking for string table xml file ui_st_mm_mp.xml for Russian language so it is not working on English version could anyone send me the Russian language files as I have tried everywhere to download the Russian version of soc.
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why don't you simply insert into rus folder the english ui_st_mm_mp.xml?
  20:57:14  5 August 2013
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still not working


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not working

but it ctd asking for string table xml file ui_st_mm_mp.xml for Russian language so it is not working on English version could anyone send me the Russian language files as I have tried everywhere to download the Russian version of soc.

why don't you simply insert into rus folder the english ui_st_mm_mp.xml?
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done as you suggested but but no go basicly it asks for files in russian language so it looks as if you definetly need the Russian version,will keep it on my computer for a while in the hope that someone can come up with a fix.
  23:42:36  5 August 2013
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Bangalore, can you upload the machine translation please.

I'm redownloading as what I have now is an all-in-one beta not a 2 parter.
  00:58:07  6 August 2013
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Bangalore - question

I have this mod running as localization 'rus'. Appears to be ok but have not played it. Had to copy in a couple of files from another mod that where missing in this mod.

However when looking at the Statistics page in the PDA the NPC names are not correct, the id's are showing instead and there are not tasks showing up.

Is this true with your install?
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Nope, i have npc names (not IDs), and yep, i don't have tasks at the beginning of the game.

Here is my machine translation (there are some egyptian hieroglyphs, once were cyrillic text, but showing like this because of different code pages):

http://www.mediafire.com/download/1qbn3vscw15mtza/alternativa_eng_prealpha.zip

I followed Strelok, he gone to a bar in Predbannik map, so this is the starting map. This map is a mix from more familiar map.

http://i.imgur.com/TfxwCXZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MlkbGg0.jpg
  01:40:24  6 August 2013
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Thanks.
  22:49:01  9 August 2013
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I was reading the explanations of the author. The mod is another AMK 1.4.1 + a ton of mods which means it will be a PIA to play. They tend to have a overkill of eye-candy effects on HUD with the final result of retarded or erratic AI. The quicksaves work almost never, and the maps are exactly as Bangalore says, the very old buggy maps.

What these Russians really do well, as in this case, are the new stroylines or quests, very prolific and successful indeed. But, cutting out the vanilla gameplot always creates negative side effects. I'm reading the short walk-through and I doubt I will understand properly what needs to be done. Machine translation is even worse because the dude did nor know to write Russian without errors.

Stalkerstein, they have removed knife and flashlight in the first map. It looks like those are to be found in a soldier-trader in Predbannik, but he doesn't spawn by default, you have to select the right dialogues, beats me which one. The light seems to be that typical icon, like the black ribbon glases. If you have at least one in the backpack the flashlight AND night vision should start working.
  03:24:23  10 August 2013
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ZaGaR, yeah I finally was able to purchase a flashlight. I have been playing the game while translating it. I am now in Backwater. No crashes at all yet. Knock on wood!
  12:20:25  10 August 2013
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I finally made it to the Cordon. I asked something from Wolf, and i gained the "kill the mercs" task. I have a makarov without shells, no flash and no knife, so i can't harm anybody. Chances are low on me.

So there is somewhere in Predbannik a trader, who sells you flashlight and knife? I found only Sultan, who sells nothing yet, a woman trader who sells chocolate only (snickers?) and an other trader in the Bar.
  13:04:35  10 August 2013
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I finally made it to the Cordon. I asked something from Wolf, and i gained the "kill the mercs" task. I have a makarov without shells, no flash and no knife, so i can't harm anybody. Chances are low on me.

So there is somewhere in Predbannik a trader, who sells you flashlight and knife? I found only Sultan, who sells nothing yet, a woman trader who sells chocolate only (snickers?) and an other trader in the Bar.
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I got a knife and flashlight from the trader in Predbannik, Sultan, in the Abandoned Village in one of the cellars/bunkers.
  13:24:08  10 August 2013
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spoiler spoiler spoiler

Incase no has mentioned it there is a guy in Predbannik who gives you a Berril outfit, Abakan and ammo when you go and see him.

This 10 second vid shows the area of the map where you can find him, He has an office that's also used in Lost world's.

http://www.moddb.com/members/davidme/videos
  16:47:12  10 August 2013
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spoiler spoiler spoiler

Incase no has mentioned it there is a guy in Predbannik who gives you a Berril outfit, Abakan and ammo when you go and see him.

This 10 second vid shows the area of the map where you can find him, He has an office that's also used in Lost world's.

http://www.moddb.com/members/davidme/videos
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You lost me on that one. I met that girl, I think she was Stockes, and I noticed no video. Also there are two yellow dots on the map there in a building to the left of her where the door up the steps is locked. How get in there?
  17:02:43  10 August 2013
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SPOILER


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spoiler spoiler spoiler

Incase no has mentioned it there is a guy in Predbannik who gives you a Berril outfit, Abakan and ammo when you go and see him.

This 10 second vid shows the area of the map where you can find him, He has an office that's also used in Lost world's.

http://www.moddb.com/members/davidme/videos


You lost me on that one. I met that girl, I think she was Stockes, and I noticed no video. Also there are two yellow dots on the map there in a building to the left of her where the door up the steps is locked. How get in there?
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In lost worlds you get a task from a chap to go and fill a water container with a sample from the small swamp. He's in there. The building the lady come out of is the one. Watch the video on the link to see which building she come out of and when you enter go to the left before the stairs and there's a partially hidden corner that goes around to a room.
  22:57:33  10 August 2013
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I think you are talking of two different versions of Alternativa. In the original there should be a military trader in the basement of the small housing block. I haven't downloaded it yet to try myself.

Now I read that there is a repack in the torrents, with a small addon and a fix/patch. In this one the functions of the mil-trader are passed to Sultan in the abandoned village.

I think it is this later we need to download and try.
  23:54:51  10 August 2013
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I think you are talking of two different versions of Alternativa. In the original there should be a military trader in the basement of the small housing block. I haven't downloaded it yet to try myself.

Now I read that there is a repack in the torrents, with a small addon and a fix/patch. In this one the functions of the mil-trader are passed to Sultan in the abandoned village.

I think it is this later we need to download and try.
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The version I am using is 1.1 beta. And Sultan is in the abandoned village as a trader. There is also the mil-trader, Kustov, behind the metal bars at the mil-base, but he so far will not trade.
  23:56:31  10 August 2013
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SPOILER

spoiler spoiler spoiler

Incase no has mentioned it there is a guy in Predbannik who gives you a Berril outfit, Abakan and ammo when you go and see him.

This 10 second vid shows the area of the map where you can find him, He has an office that's also used in Lost world's.

http://www.moddb.com/members/davidme/videos


You lost me on that one. I met that girl, I think she was Stockes, and I noticed no video. Also there are two yellow dots on the map there in a building to the left of her where the door up the steps is locked. How get in there?

In lost worlds you get a task from a chap to go and fill a water container with a sample from the small swamp. He's in there. The building the lady come out of is the one. Watch the video on the link to see which building she come out of and when you enter go to the left before the stairs and there's a partially hidden corner that goes around to a room.
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I believe the guy you are referring to is Gennadi Dementyev who is sleeping. He won't respond yet.
  00:17:46  11 August 2013
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His name is messed up and reads as something like "the captain PP Ps*PP llsP"

http://www.moddb.com/members/davidme/images/devolution811#imagebox


The task info on the screen is what it shows just after he gives you the outfit and gun, Any idea what it says?

He is on the ground level
  03:33:20  11 August 2013
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His name is messed up and reads as something like "the captain PP Ps*PP llsP"

http://www.moddb.com/members/davidme/images/devolution811#imagebox

The task info on the screen is what it shows just after he gives you the outfit and gun, Any idea what it says?

He is on the ground level
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I think that means 'Meet with Degtyarev'. In my game the character you are showing comes up as Gennadi Bury, which really doesn't seem correct.
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Sultan is there in both variants. In the fixed version Sultan should have a full complement of ammo, suits, etc. In the first, older one, his inventory is blank, he is only buying and the military behind the bars does all the selling.
  11:12:02  11 August 2013
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So I've got the older version then as Sultan had nothing on him. Is this fella who gave me the meet with degtarev task and the outfit and weapon not in the newer one? Also can I have the correct link please.


Is the newer one in two seperate .exe downloads still?
  13:29:21  11 August 2013
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So I've got the older version then as Sultan had nothing on him. Is this fella who gave me the meet with degtarev task and the outfit and weapon not in the newer one? Also can I have the correct link please.


Is the newer one in two seperate .exe downloads still?
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David,

When you asked about this mod in another discussion I gave you the following link - dated 27 Feb 2013 ... which is later than and larger (2.8Gb) than 17 Feb download for the two-part version referenced earlier in this forum. It also requires a specific xrGame.dll .

http://stalkermod.ru/MODYI-Teni-CHernobyilya/alternativa-v11-novyj-sjuzhet.html

There are download links for the mod and xrGame.dll at the bottom of the above page. The download (you will notice) is listed as a beta. I have not tried this yet and am not sure whether this is the version you already have.
  13:41:58  11 August 2013
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So I've got the older version then as Sultan had nothing on him. Is this fella who gave me the meet with degtarev task and the outfit and weapon not in the newer one? Also can I have the correct link please.


Is the newer one in two seperate .exe downloads still?

David,

When you asked about this mod in another discussion I gave you the following link - dated 27 Feb 2013 ... which is later than and larger (2.8Gb) than 17 Feb download for the two-part version referenced earlier in this forum. It also requires a specific xrGame.dll .

http://stalkermod.ru/MODYI-Teni-CHernobyilya/alternativa-v11-novyj-sjuzhet.html

There are download links for the mod and xrGame.dll at the bottom of the above page. The download (you will notice) is listed as a beta. I have not tried this yet and am not sure whether this is the version you already have.
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Yes I downloaded the single one you mentioned and I couldn't get it too work which was when I was given the 2 parter links which I got working. But I'll have to try again. I'll also download it again and compare it too the first one I downloaded.

The first one is called Stalker_Mod_Alternativa_1.1_beta

and it is 2,962,522 kb's in size.
  14:10:20  11 August 2013
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So I've got the older version then as Sultan had nothing on him. Is this fella who gave me the meet with degtarev task and the outfit and weapon not in the newer one? Also can I have the correct link please.


Is the newer one in two seperate .exe downloads still?

David,

When you asked about this mod in another discussion I gave you the following link - dated 27 Feb 2013 ... which is later than and larger (2.8Gb) than 17 Feb download for the two-part version referenced earlier in this forum. It also requires a specific xrGame.dll .

http://stalkermod.ru/MODYI-Teni-CHernobyilya/alternativa-v11-novyj-sjuzhet.html

There are download links for the mod and xrGame.dll at the bottom of the above page. The download (you will notice) is listed as a beta. I have not tried this yet and am not sure whether this is the version you already have.

Yes I downloaded the single one you mentioned and I couldn't get it too work which was when I was given the 2 parter links which I got working. But I'll have to try again. I'll also download it again and compare it too the first one I downloaded.

The first one is called Stalker_Mod_Alternativa_1.1_beta

and it is 2,962,522 kb's in size.
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There is also this
http://www.rutor.org/torrent/259824/s.t.a.l.k.e.r-shadow-of-chernobyl-alternativa-v1.1-beta-2013-pc-mod .... which might be the same

.... and I noticed this which, if I read it right is NS + Joint Pak + Quest Chernobyl of Chess.

http://rutor.org/torrent/291015/s.t.a.l.k.e.r-narodnaja-soljanka-poiski-chernobylskogo-shahmatista-2013-pc-repack-by-serega-lus

Is this the new addition to NS Joint Pak? Do you know of this? I might also refer it to the NS Joint Pak forum.
  14:23:49  11 August 2013
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Not sure but I'm downloading it to have a look anyway. Cheers.
  14:57:11  11 August 2013
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How I installed ... for v1.0004

AlternativA_1.1_01.rar
AlternativA_1.1_02.rar

FIKS1_1 для АЛЬТЕРНАТИВА.zip
FIKS1_2 для АЛЬТЕРНАТИВА.zip

I changed language to 'eng' in 'localization.ltx' file, and renamed folder 'text/rus' to 'text/eng'.

In some 'eng' files change the '#include' path lines that have 'rus' in them to 'eng'.

I believe file 'xr.Game.dll' is changed by the installation routine.

I cannot remember if there were a couple of files missing, if so just copy from the default game. This one might have been missing 'ui_st_mm_mp.xml'.

They recommend changing "cam_inert 0.7" and to "cam_inert 0" in user.ltx file.
I don't know why, and I didn't do it. So I guess I will do it.

Ok, just found this info: cam_inert [0.0 - 1.0] - Controls the camera inertia, which basically determines how laggy your view will be. It should be left at 0, as values closer to 1.0 make the viewpoint laggier for no real benefit.
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I just read the fixes explanation and it is the No.2 that does the real fix. It goes directly over the standard 2 part installation, or installation + addon. It says that also fixes no-log CTDs in Zaton and Predbannik. It also lowers the intensity of the duality of psy-attacks. No need for a new game is mentioned david, but with the changes involved it is worth restarting.


http://alternativa-mod.ru/arxiv/FIKS1_2 для АЛЬТЕРНАТИВА.zip

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AMK Forum offers something better, a merge of official fixes, maybe from one of their residents. It says: patch of March 10 fixed as of June 26. It contains the previous patch. Link: http://rusfolder.com/37393885. I suggest the use this instead of Fix1_1 + Fix1_2.
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spoiler spoiler spoiler

Incase no has mentioned it there is a guy in Predbannik who gives you a Berril outfit, Abakan and ammo when you go and see him.

This 10 second vid shows the area of the map where you can find him, He has an office that's also used in Lost world's.

http://www.moddb.com/members/davidme/videos
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I started a new game and after speaking with Stockes (the girl in the military base) Gannadi Bury shows up in the commander's chart room but he won't talk, the guy that was on the couch nearby sleeping is gone. Now the door is available to open on the other side of the street where there are two guys behind it, BUT it won't open even though it should.

Any ideas?
 
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