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  12:28:50  4 July 2013
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Meltac
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I got a BIOS updated by some modder mate, but was not able yet to create a working boot stick in order to flash it. But that's definitively what I will try next.

Do you say a "simple" driver update can corrupt the card's BIOS? That would be devastating IMO! However it would explain the weird behavior I'm having. And yeah, the card's fans are also not throttling up anymore the way they did before updating the driver.
  13:04:06  4 July 2013
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I got a BIOS updated by some modder mate, but was not able yet to create a working boot stick in order to flash it. But that's definitively what I will try next.

Do you say a "simple" driver update can corrupt the card's BIOS? That would be devastating IMO! However it would explain the weird behavior I'm having. And yeah, the card's fans are also not throttling up anymore the way they did before updating the driver.
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I RMA'd a 295 and got a 580, they'd throttled fans to 85% via bios and I wanted 100%; Other users had fried 580's so they stopped offering. There's a EVGA thread and in your place I would have tried this, I'm very careful and would stop and ask before doing anything I'm unsure of. Have you raised a support ticket for advice? I would start there and let them walk you through, your mate might be a guru for all I know but if EVGA cock it up they would/should feel responsible and hopefully sort you out.
  13:15:01  4 July 2013
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I just launched a thread on my issue on EVGA forums and hope to get answers there. I've seen the tech guys from EVGA are very active in the forums as well, so I might get helpful replies both from the company staff and community members. Hopefully.
  13:30:57  4 July 2013
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I just launched a thread on my issue on EVGA forums and hope to get answers there. I've seen the tech guys from EVGA are very active in the forums as well, so I might get helpful replies both from the company staff and community members. Hopefully.
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Why don't you also raise a support ticket which would make them more responsible for any potential problems? and if unresolved would be passed to the next level of compitence. I remember reading of a released GTX driver which broke GPU's so it's not inconceivable that a corrupted update could alter something in the bios, perhaps it defaulted to "safe mode" or whatever.
  13:45:17  4 July 2013
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Why don't you also raise a support ticket which would make them more responsible for any potential problems?
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Simply for the reason that I have not yet registered the card at EVGA. I will do that when I get the chance as atm I'm not on my PC.


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I've found this:

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.php?architecture=NVIDIA&manufacturer=EVGA&model=GTX+560+Ti&interface=PCI-E&memType=GDDR5&memSize=1024

Could you maybe give me some advice on which BIOS would be fine for my card? I guess should be one of the 900 / 1053 version, and of course not the "SC".
  14:28:28  4 July 2013
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Why don't you also raise a support ticket which would make them more responsible for any potential problems?

Simply for the reason that I have not yet registered the card at EVGA. I will do that when I get the chance as atm I'm not on my PC.


EDIT:
I've found this:

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.php?architecture=NVIDIA&manufacturer=EVGA&model=GTX+560+Ti&interface=PCI-E&memType=GDDR5&memSize=1024

Could you maybe give me some advice on which BIOS would be fine for my card? I guess should be one of the 900 / 1053 version, and of course not the "SC".
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Is this is a brand new card bought from a retailer? If it is I would do everything by the book. If you flash the bios from a non EVGA site and it goes tits up - you'll presumably invalidate the warranty and if EVGA don't issue them - there's a reason for it.
If it has no warranty then I would find a program that specs the card and hopefully lists the bios details and go from there. EVGA have advanced software for over-clocking which should help. I just use basic stuff for fan profiles ect as I'm not into over-clocking.

Edit. Your link "techpowerup.com" has "nvflash" which allows you to save original bios [re-flash as a fail-safe] and lists details of the existing bios. I would use this to gather all info and back-up existing before anything else.
  15:31:55  4 July 2013
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thanks. the card is not new, bought it second-hand. so, no warranty anyways.

The previous owner never had any issues, he just sold the card because of the fan's noise that annoyed him, he's got a GTX560Ti from ASUS now instead which he says gives the exact same framerate as mine.

After what I've read it's said to be physically impossible for a graphics driver to modify vbios data of the GPU, so I assume there must be something else the driver update did to my GPU or system.
  16:03:24  4 July 2013
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thanks. the card is not new, bought it second-hand. so, no warranty anyways.

The previous owner never had any issues, he just sold the card because of the fan's noise that annoyed him, he's got a GTX560Ti from ASUS now instead which he says gives the exact same framerate as mine.

After what I've read it's said to be physically impossible for a graphics driver to modify vbios data of the GPU, so I assume there must be something else the driver update did to my GPU or system.
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I'm sure that's right but the driver communicates with the bios and vice versa
From the EVGA forum re second hand cards. "The warranty would start from the ship date from us for the second hand owner. You can enter the serial number in our Guest RMA area to see how many days are left on the warranty" I have a 10 yr warranty on my card.
This is all above my pay-grade but a bios can corrupt and this presumably can cause problems with communication with the driver. The corruption must be software sourced and driver and bios communicate to the hardware.
I've got a headache now and I have to change the duvet cover which reduces me to tears and then I have to bake bread so good luck mate.
  17:02:10  4 July 2013
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Ok, many thanks for your help And get well soon!
  18:30:40  4 July 2013
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Beat the duvet, its like fighting a controller in a train carriage with a bread loaf.
What I would do.
Make sure the 560 settings are factory default.
Install the 260 and if it works in Stalker like before then the problems the 560, not hardware.
I would do a fresh Win7 install with the 560 [keep win drivers] fresh Stalker install and try [fps]
Update gtx drivers and check Stalker [fps].
Still fecked?
If the person you bought it from is a very good friend, then I'm sure he sold it in good faith - but the 560's faulty and he should acknowledge this. If he's not a good friend then his excuse to replace it with another 560 "because its a little quieter" seems lame to me and I suspect the card was very tired and on the way out.
 
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