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  00:12:15  20 September 2012
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bulliz
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On forum: 08/20/2011
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DMX + BOUTCH71 IS AMAZING!!!

I've playing this A LOT and I had no crashes in Condor, just one small in freeze in Garbage. This is the most playable version!

One question: I got the second quest from kuznatsov, to steal the documents, but I dont have yet the 12 cossack vodka required (it's kinda weird that other vodka brands dont count) and I to the special mission at Agroprom Research Institute. If I do the special mission first, can I still do the kuznatsov quest, cause he tells me I cannot kill anybody?
  16:18:53  20 September 2012
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Wulfric
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09/20/2012 16:26:53
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---QUOTATION---
DMX + BOUTCH71 IS AMAZING!!!

I've playing this A LOT and I had no crashes in Condor, just one small in freeze in Garbage. This is the most playable version!

One question: I got the second quest from kuznatsov, to steal the documents, but I dont have yet the 12 cossack vodka required (it's kinda weird that other vodka brands dont count) and I to the special mission at Agroprom Research Institute. If I do the special mission first, can I still do the kuznatsov quest, cause he tells me I cannot kill anybody?
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Do the regular vanilla jobs (rescue Mole, find Strelok's hideout, etc.) at Agroprom that Sid gives (the one where you steal the docs and bring them to the bar). Here, you can shoot any, all, or none of the military. There's an additional important document lying on a table in the central building that you'll want to locate, so check for it. It will open a 'new way' for you. Also, watch out for the helicopter!

There's another military trader on that map who, in the daytime, stands under the power lines--he can get killed if you take the Agro base at night, so remember that.

For the no-shoot, no-kill job, get the Cossack's vodka before doing the mission for the Lt.--meeting up with that crew in Agroprom, where you're supposed give the guy the vodka; then, follow the screen directions carefully--Sid gives vodka for quirks, the most common artifact early in the game; Barkeep also gives vodka for an artifact, can't remember which one now.

After talking with a trader, check your PDA diary for 'trader offers.' It gives a quick rundown regarding what you need to trade.
  23:49:34  20 September 2012
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bulliz
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On forum: 08/20/2011
Messages: 48

---QUOTATION---
DMX + BOUTCH71 IS AMAZING!!!

I've playing this A LOT and I had no crashes in Condor, just one small in freeze in Garbage. This is the most playable version!

One question: I got the second quest from kuznatsov, to steal the documents, but I dont have yet the 12 cossack vodka required (it's kinda weird that other vodka brands dont count) and I to the special mission at Agroprom Research Institute. If I do the special mission first, can I still do the kuznatsov quest, cause he tells me I cannot kill anybody?

Do the regular vanilla jobs (rescue Mole, find Strelok's hideout, etc.) at Agroprom that Sid gives (the one where you steal the docs and bring them to the bar). Here, you can shoot any, all, or none of the military. There's an additional important document lying on a table in the central building that you'll want to locate, so check for it. It will open a 'new way' for you. Also, watch out for the helicopter!

There's another military trader on that map who, in the daytime, stands under the power lines--he can get killed if you take the Agro base at night, so remember that.

For the no-shoot, no-kill job, get the Cossack's vodka before doing the mission for the Lt.--meeting up with that crew in Agroprom, where you're supposed give the guy the vodka; then, follow the screen directions carefully--Sid gives vodka for quirks, the most common artifact early in the game; Barkeep also gives vodka for an artifact, can't remember which one now.

After talking with a trader, check your PDA diary for 'trader offers.' It gives a quick rundown regarding what you need to trade.
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So do I brake any quests for doing the no-kill mission first and then go to the underground and continue the vanilla? Because in the mean time I managed to get all the vodka I needed, saved mole, but didnt went in the underground to continue, I just went to do the no kill mission and then continued with the underground. At the agro base some soldiers sounded lui kutzneov ("bla bla bla....before we get angry" , so Im kinda worried that's not good. Cheers
  23:56:44  20 September 2012
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Wulfric
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On forum: 06/23/2010
 

Message edited by:
Wulfric
09/21/2012 0:03:56
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---QUOTATION---
DMX + BOUTCH71 IS AMAZING!!!
So do I brake any quests for doing the no-kill mission first and then go to the underground and continue the vanilla? Because in the mean time I managed to get all the vodka I needed, saved mole, but didnt went in the underground to continue, I just went to do the no kill mission and then continued with the underground. At the agro base some soldiers sounded lui kutzneov ("bla bla bla....before we get angry" , so Im kinda worried that's not good. Cheers
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You're hearing the military trader (What are you standing there for stalker, etc.), who goes to the base at night and stands by the power lines during the day.

Doing the bag job might trigger a helicopter hunting you when you return to Cordon. Try and see. If it does, I'd recommend waiting to do the no-kill, no-shoot mission because without a proper weapon to take down the helicopter (RPG + ammo, which Skinflint sells at AW), you won't be able to travel in Cordon (which you must do upon returning from X-18 and Dark Valley) without being blasted by that thing.

I'm glad to help, Dude.
  01:56:42  21 September 2012
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bulliz
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On forum: 08/20/2011
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---QUOTATION---
DMX + BOUTCH71 IS AMAZING!!!
So do I brake any quests for doing the no-kill mission first and then go to the underground and continue the vanilla? Because in the mean time I managed to get all the vodka I needed, saved mole, but didnt went in the underground to continue, I just went to do the no kill mission and then continued with the underground. At the agro base some soldiers sounded lui kutzneov ("bla bla bla....before we get angry" , so Im kinda worried that's not good. Cheers

You're hearing the military trader (What are you standing there for stalker, etc.), who goes to the base at night and stands by the power lines during the day.

Doing the bag job might trigger a helicopter hunting you when you return to Cordon. Try and see. If it does, I'd recommend waiting to do the no-kill, no-shoot mission because without a proper weapon to take down the helicopter (RPG + ammo, which Skinflint sells at AW), you won't be able to travel in Cordon (which you must do upon returning from X-18 and Dark Valley) without being blasted by that thing.

I'm glad to help, Dude.
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You are like stalker 911, I was researching the steam forums and I see you are active there as well.

Tested this, no heli attacked me, but I will be on the safe side and listen to your advice. It's weird about the military trader that he was at the base, I attacked at 10 am... what lazy bastard, maybe the blowout fucked up he's schedule.

Anyway, the bad thing is that now I'm stuck with 15 cossack vodka because I dont have the heart to throw them away and find other ones when I can to that mission. Maybe I will save some money to buy a second lock and create a stash in agro especially for that. This is the life in the Zone... or should I just put my trust in finding quirks, I saw that in agro they are somewhat frequent?
  17:33:27  21 September 2012
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Wulfric
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On forum: 06/23/2010
Messages: 687

---QUOTATION---
DMX + BOUTCH71 IS AMAZING!!!
So do I brake any quests for doing the no-kill mission first and then go to the underground and continue the vanilla? Because in the mean time I managed to get all the vodka I needed, saved mole, but didnt went in the underground to continue, I just went to do the no kill mission and then continued with the underground. At the agro base some soldiers sounded lui kutzneov ("bla bla bla....before we get angry" , so Im kinda worried that's not good. Cheers

You're hearing the military trader (What are you standing there for stalker, etc.), who goes to the base at night and stands by the power lines during the day.

Doing the bag job might trigger a helicopter hunting you when you return to Cordon. Try and see. If it does, I'd recommend waiting to do the no-kill, no-shoot mission because without a proper weapon to take down the helicopter (RPG + ammo, which Skinflint sells at AW), you won't be able to travel in Cordon (which you must do upon returning from X-18 and Dark Valley) without being blasted by that thing.

I'm glad to help, Dude.

You are like stalker 911, I was researching the steam forums and I see you are active there as well.

Tested this, no heli attacked me, but I will be on the safe side and listen to your advice. It's weird about the military trader that he was at the base, I attacked at 10 am... what lazy bastard, maybe the blowout fucked up he's schedule.

Anyway, the bad thing is that now I'm stuck with 15 cossack vodka because I dont have the heart to throw them away and find other ones when I can to that mission. Maybe I will save some money to buy a second lock and create a stash in agro especially for that. This is the life in the Zone... or should I just put my trust in finding quirks, I saw that in agro they are somewhat frequent?
---END QUOTATION---



Most traders sell portable rucksacks (Akim's price is best) for stashing goods--I think that you can safely store stuff on the body in the Agro underground also. You can buy ammo and grenades from these military traders for vodka--it's currency for these guys.

Did the mobile trader show up after the Agroprom job? You can sell extra stuff to him, but like I said, Cossack's vodka is currency, so hold on to that.

Maybe you won't be attacked by the helicopter--it was happened in my game, but some events do appear to be random.

Did you search the body of the dead military guy in Cordon before the Cave? He's lying near the underpass where there's a broken down jeep. It starts an important quest.
  18:22:40  21 September 2012
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bulliz
(Novice)
 
On forum: 08/20/2011
Messages: 48

---QUOTATION---
DMX + BOUTCH71 IS AMAZING!!!

Most traders sell portable rucksacks (Akim's price is best) for stashing goods--I think that you can safely store stuff on the body in the Agro underground also. You can buy ammo and grenades from these military traders for vodka--it's currency for these guys.

Did the mobile trader show up after the Agroprom job? You can sell extra stuff to him, but like I said, Cossack's vodka is currency, so hold on to that.

Maybe you won't be attacked by the helicopter--it was happened in my game, but some events do appear to be random.

Did you search the body of the dead military guy in Cordon before the Cave? He's lying near the underpass where there's a broken down jeep. It starts an important quest.
---END QUOTATION---



I started the agro stuff from scratch , but I got a lock and rucsack to store my precious vodka and I started the PDA mission you we're reffering to.

The Controller in the Underground, has some weird documents: Diary Experiments: Entries Encrypted when I pick it up it doesnt show in my inventory.
  19:00:40  21 September 2012
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Wulfric
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On forum: 06/23/2010
Messages: 687

---QUOTATION---
DMX + BOUTCH71 IS AMAZING!!!

Most traders sell portable rucksacks (Akim's price is best) for stashing goods--I think that you can safely store stuff on the body in the Agro underground also. You can buy ammo and grenades from these military traders for vodka--it's currency for these guys.

Did the mobile trader show up after the Agroprom job? You can sell extra stuff to him, but like I said, Cossack's vodka is currency, so hold on to that.

Maybe you won't be attacked by the helicopter--it was happened in my game, but some events do appear to be random.

Did you search the body of the dead military guy in Cordon before the Cave? He's lying near the underpass where there's a broken down jeep. It starts an important quest.

I started the agro stuff from scratch , but I got a lock and rucsack to store my precious vodka and I started the PDA mission you we're reffering to.

The Controller in the Underground, has some weird documents: Diary Experiments: Entries Encrypted when I pick it up it doesnt show in my inventory.
---END QUOTATION---



I thought that these controller docs were under 'eye of the beholder' in your PDA Encyclopedia, but I'm not certain about that. It might have been something that the developers never finished.

Did you find the second PDA on the wounded bandit on the Garbage, in the field between the Duty checkpoint and the Dark Valley transition?
  20:14:42  21 September 2012
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bulliz
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On forum: 08/20/2011
Messages: 48

---QUOTATION---
DMX + BOUTCH71 IS AMAZING!!!


I thought that these controller docs were under 'eye of the beholder' in your PDA Encyclopedia, but I'm not certain about that. It might have been something that the developers never finished.

Did you find the second PDA on the wounded bandit on the Garbage, in the field between the Duty checkpoint and the Dark Valley transition?
---END QUOTATION---



Yeap and also the bandit in agroprom underground and now my job is find the owner of the PDA, but right now Im fighting for my life at the agroprom base (the trader is at the pole).
I got to say though, except the pistols witch feel good, the recoil in general takes away the pleasure of gun fighting. I love recoil, but in this mod with many guys you can't even fire bursts.... like the bizon... it's ridiculos in this game.

I tried when I was at the cave level to change the minigun recoil, because it was just insane. I went and change in the w_m_134.ltx
these:
cam_relax_speed = 2.0
cam_dispersion = 0.300
cam_dispersion_inc = 0.3 ;
cam_dispertion_frac = 1.0 ;
cam_dispersion*cam_dispertion_frac +- cam_dispersion*(1-cam_dispertion_frac)
cam_max_angle = 12.0 ;ìàêñèìàëüíûé óãîë îòäà÷è
cam_max_angle_horz = 15.0
cam_step_angle_horz = 4.5

with values from vanilla Narodnaya, but with absolutly no effect at all, kidna weird I thought this is where the recoil stats are. Did you try to change the recoil, if so from what mod did you take the stats?
  20:50:30  21 September 2012
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Wulfric
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On forum: 06/23/2010
 

Message edited by:
Wulfric
09/21/2012 20:57:00
Messages: 687

---QUOTATION---
DMX + BOUTCH71 IS AMAZING!!!


I thought that these controller docs were under 'eye of the beholder' in your PDA Encyclopedia, but I'm not certain about that. It might have been something that the developers never finished.

Did you find the second PDA on the wounded bandit on the Garbage, in the field between the Duty checkpoint and the Dark Valley transition?

Yeap and also the bandit in agroprom underground and now my job is find the owner of the PDA, but right now Im fighting for my life at the agroprom base (the trader is at the pole).
I got to say though, except the pistols witch feel good, the recoil in general takes away the pleasure of gun fighting. I love recoil, but in this mod with many guys you can't even fire bursts.... like the bizon... it's ridiculos in this game.

I tried when I was at the cave level to change the minigun recoil, because it was just insane. I went and change in the w_m_134.ltx
these:
cam_relax_speed = 2.0
cam_dispersion = 0.300
cam_dispersion_inc = 0.3 ;
cam_dispertion_frac = 1.0 ;
cam_dispersion*cam_dispertion_frac +- cam_dispersion*(1-cam_dispertion_frac)
cam_max_angle = 12.0 ;ìàêñèìàëüíûé óãîë îòäà÷è
cam_max_angle_horz = 15.0
cam_step_angle_horz = 4.5

with values from vanilla Narodnaya, but with absolutly no effect at all, kidna weird I thought this is where the recoil stats are. Did you try to change the recoil, if so from what mod did you take the stats?
---END QUOTATION---



I struggled using the minigun just as you describe. I took it slow in the Cave and hard saved after every mutant kill. The weapon itself seems less effective to me than in the original NS. Maybe it's the hit power of the ammo.

I searched like crazy to find out how to alter recoil, but I had no luck. I asked on this forum, but no one replied. In DMX 1.34, I found the 5.45 weapons most effective. I must admit that I changed the power of 12x70 buckshot also, so my shotgun kicked butt. I didn't use 5.56 much until I acquired the Executioner from Akim.

There was a bugged job that I took from Fox to get him a package from Prapor. Prapor gave me a chaser to deliver to Fox, but I couldn't get Fox to take it, so I used it until I found a modified chaser that Sid repaired, but he took the chaser that Prapor gave me for parts. The result was that I ended up with a shotgun that doesn't wear out.

Speaking of Prapor, make sure to work for him--he's got some important jobs to do. You probably know this, but when you shoot fleshes, aim for their rump area, and you'll have better luck retrieving mutant parts (eyes) from them.
 
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