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  16:13:06  18 December 2005
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Flixz
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On forum: 12/04/2005
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I think this is going pretty oftopic.

For the game itsself I think it would be very cool to have mounted MG's (would be awsome if it was a Kord )without ammo like in Call of Duty, to make some positions better defendable for example.
  15:01:04  18 December 2005
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Well i have no idea who these people are, sounds like they use simunitions. Thats typically not how israelie dedicated marksmen are employed. Basically most of the squad is outfitted for CQB and short to medium ranged combat. Then they have 1-2 members of the squad outfitted from medium to long range. They are not realyl a sniper perse(hence why they are called dedicated marksmen), however they do deal with targets out to distances at which a sniper would be engaging targets.
  12:26:29  18 December 2005
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Robertino_lt
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On forum: 11/19/2005
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about the snipers it goes offtopic but you may know a group of people who play soldiers with real guns real tactics and so on but fake bullets.
so everything is real except for the bullets so nobody gets hurt and they actually use a sniper in the group-as u have said 10 people 1 sniper.
the sniper acts as a scout reports to the squad leader and tries to pick off a few members of the opposing squad(because his rifle has triple the range)and when he sees that he is spotted and hunted then he retreats to the squad or changes his position
  22:46:00  17 December 2005
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12/17/2005 23:34:23
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LMG's as described dont really exist in a modern military. they have been relegated to a defensive support weapon. The clsoest thing to an LMG that is used today is an M240 or M249 which are both considered offensive support weapons. Thier is mounted in its normal form (although tere are mounted forms).

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As for the squad based snipers there are a few countries that do this. The most notable of which is Isreal. They have whats termed a "Dedicated marksman" This is someone usually with a national match M16 with a 20" barrel and an adjustable 1-8x ELCAN. This has wokred very well for the isrealies, a group of soldiers i would not want to mess with.
  19:01:45  17 December 2005
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Dulus
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12/17/2005 19:05:03
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what do you think?
if not the whole magazine , at least the firs two or three rounds.
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Uhmm.
Tracers are good for you, but also they are good for your enemy, because if you start firing on them, the tracers will light, and your night cover is away.

And about those LMGs.
As it was mentioned they have their place only in group of soldiers as support weapon to provide covering fire. So maybe in MP, but definitely not in SP. It will be only another thing that you will carry "but what if something will happen, and I will need it".
  18:59:24  17 December 2005
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Dulus
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On forum: 10/02/2004
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Snipers, are commonly lone soldiers (or with another one man who helps them to aim better). And those who are in group with other soldiers are not snipers in real. They only have some better rifles with scopes. It's because the sniping is mainly about waiting. Some snipers must wait for their target even a few days. So if you are in the group with another 10 men, you are more easy to spot and also those another 10 men have nothing to do, coz they cannot do nothing with their weapons on the long distances, but the sniper can.

So sniping isn't some first line action.
  14:01:01  17 December 2005
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shefa
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On forum: 09/29/2005
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The problem with LMG's, is even though they are called "light" they arent so light. They are heavy, consume MASS amounts of ammunition in a very short time, and are not to accurate. HMG's have to be mounted and non-manportable, so there goes that idea. The only real good use for an LMG is as a covering fire weapon.

Tracers are usually staggered about every 3rd or 4th round.
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OK , guys , the machine guns usually are carried by two man , but in every special forces/recon units the machine guns are modified for one man.Yeah ,this weapon requiers a lot of ammo and free space and in the real life the machine gunners are allways the slowest members of the groups.
BUT I think it's good idea this weapon to be placed in the game , even if it's rear to find. The military stalkers are in group , so one man may carry machne gun , other sniper rifle , the rest of the crew - AK's with underbarrel grenade launchers.Anyway , the developers will decide what to include and what not.
  10:15:48  17 December 2005
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Fux0r666
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Well the weapon that wondervirus describes would be a heavy machinegun, I guess. Still, no prone position, no supported lmg. It's a shame. I really like support weapons in ofp (mods, noone plays vanilla ofp anymore). The AI usually reacts to the hail of fire by going prone if they are out in the open.. it makes them sweet sweet candy for the riflemen.
  23:08:10  16 December 2005
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The problem with LMG's, is even though they are called "light" they arent so light. They are heavy, consume MASS amounts of ammunition in a very short time, and are not to accurate. HMG's have to be mounted and non-manportable, so there goes that idea. The only real good use for an LMG is as a covering fire weapon.

Tracers are usually staggered about every 3rd or 4th round.
  21:02:32  16 December 2005
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wondervirus
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Fuxor, in the most recent video, they did show a fixed position machinegun,
tho none of the stalkers used it (feh). It is possible they are adding that
as one of the 'we are adding stuff' kinds of features,
 
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