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  20:46:50  8 December 2005
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Fux0r666
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I agree. It would be confusing.
The name of the ammo is to some who is not an hunter or military or policeman ......... is just only the name maybe with some numbers.
In SWAT it was solved pretty good, but it was still confusing anyway. In SWAT there was a name of ammo type with short description and some tips against which type of enemy is it most suitable (classic or impact-explosive is best against unarmoured target, full metal jacket is best against armoured targets an so on....)

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I don't recall any impact explosives in SWAT (I played SWAT 3 and 4, but 3 was a long time ago). I think you might be referring to expanding bullets, but I don't know. There was definitely no explosive bullets in SWAT, and there aren't really any explosive bullets in pistol or assault rifle calibres in real life.

Expanding bullets like the hollow point increase in diameter when they enter the body, forming a greater hole and bleeding off all their energy so they don't over-penetrate.
  17:16:37  9 December 2005
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Dulus
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Yes I was thinking about those expanding/hollow point bullets, but I didn't know how it's called in english.
Or to be more precise I was thinking about that sort of bullets which are filled with mercury or other liquid/material. When they hit the taget they "explode"-=- they are ragged to multiple smaller parts "shards"-=- and those parts then cull/damage the surrounding material. I think that in USA there is famous ammo of this type called "Blood Mary".

I hope you understand me, because my english is not very perfect.
  18:31:09  9 December 2005
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Yes I was thinking about those expanding/hollow point bullets, but I didn't know how it's called in english.
Or to be more precise I was thinking about that sort of bullets which are filled with mercury or other liquid/material. When they hit the taget they "explode"-=- they are ragged to multiple smaller parts "shards"-=- and those parts then cull/damage the surrounding material. I think that in USA there is famous ammo of this type called "Blood Mary".

I hope you understand me, because my english is not very perfect.
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I've never heard them called 'Bloody Mary' and I'm not sure if USA is famous for them, but they don't 'explode' either. They also sort of expand and fragment a bit.
  21:10:30  9 December 2005
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Flixz
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Poisonous bullets or projectiles that give of radioactive stuff when they hit you takes the game a little to far in my opinion.

Some different ammo types for much used rifles/assault rifles like the AK would be cool, pistols for example would better just have 1 type, it's own type/caliber/mm, of ammo.
  21:29:48  9 December 2005
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Poisonous/radioactive?
  21:59:55  9 December 2005
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Robertino_lt
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anybody want to make mods with different ammo?(or shall you wait till the game is finished?)
  09:58:35  10 December 2005
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Dulus
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Poisonous/radioactive?
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It's not that hard to get an example of poisonous bullet.
In history there was an attack on some state leader (I think it was Prussia -not Russia- but not sure) in which he was killed by bullet fired from an umbrella which had 3 holes, filled with rycine(it is very efficient poison, but I'm not sure, and unable to find in dictionary how it is called in english--it is ten times efficient than cyanide). So imagining poisonous bullets is not that hard.

And about radioactive. Uhmmmm. I've heard that in Iraq were used uranium shells, which then caused illnesses to US troops.
And SPAS 12 have also uranium ammo, but I don't know if it is bullets or only the cartridge.
  23:46:43  10 December 2005
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Flixz
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Sounds like a good idea if you're a bad guy in reality

Though I think it just doesn't fit into a game like S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
I think it would be darn irritating to be sick while playing, just because someone hit you with 1 bullet.

My opinion.
  01:26:07  11 December 2005
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Fux0r666
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Poisonous/radioactive?

It's not that hard to get an example of poisonous bullet.
In history there was an attack on some state leader (I think it was Prussia -not Russia- but not sure) in which he was killed by bullet fired from an umbrella which had 3 holes, filled with rycine(it is very efficient poison, but I'm not sure, and unable to find in dictionary how it is called in english--it is ten times efficient than cyanide). So imagining poisonous bullets is not that hard.

And about radioactive. Uhmmmm. I've heard that in Iraq were used uranium shells, which then caused illnesses to US troops.
And SPAS 12 have also uranium ammo, but I don't know if it is bullets or only the cartridge.
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Oh, I thought you meant that you thought we had discussed those previously. I had no idea that you were introducing a new idea.

Depleted uranium shells are only for anti-tank cannons.
  03:11:46  11 December 2005
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Wilmer
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To those who don't get it I want to say that depleted uranium is used because it's heavy not because it's radioactive.

Also poisonous bullets are silly. The bullet Dulus mentions weren't fired from the umbrella, it was lying in the tip and stabbed into the knee of the victim. He died three days later. That's why poison is silly because normally a bullet will kill a person and even if he survives the bullet has probably passed through thus not delivering a high enought dose.

I think they should have "special" ammo that exists in real life. I think people are smart enought to understand the differences if the items have an explanatory text. Anyways, experimenting is fun.
 
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