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  10:38:28  7 September 2005
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M-Totenkopf
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Blood and gore..

is going to be some gore and blood in the game?

if nobody though about it then the devs should give the gore and blood. i hate those new games like guild wars that started well and then it become childish and now nobody plays it anymore. i just got online and from 74 districs of 60 ppl in them now is only 7 districs with only 30 ppl on them and i am talking about lions arch( the capital of the game).

anyways blood and gore is good. i do sometimes some interesting shots in counter strike to see where the blood is going to splat next.
  17:51:22  7 September 2005
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wondervirus
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I don't recall seeing a whole lot of the stuff. Unless you shotgun or grenade
somebody, I think the nbc suits all of the stalkers wear would end up containing most of the spatter and leakage.

Hopefully you will be able to enable gore though
  18:07:49  7 September 2005
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Hmm.. On the flip side of the coin, gore for gore's sake is cheap and childish. Now, not that I've ever shot anyone, but I don't think that there's a whole lot of 'gore' in shooting someone. You produce a 6 mm hole in someone and that's what you see.. I suppose the majority of gore in the game would come from the predatory mutants eating stalkers.
  04:41:02  8 September 2005
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M-Totenkopf
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Hmm.. On the flip side of the coin, gore for gore's sake is cheap and childish. Now, not that I've ever shot anyone, but I don't think that there's a whole lot of 'gore' in shooting someone. You produce a 6 mm hole in someone and that's what you see.. I suppose the majority of gore in the game would come from the predatory mutants eating stalkers.
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u are completely right, what i mean with gore was if u shoot some1 with a rpg u may blow out a leg or even a torso.

i am not saying that u shoot a 7.62 bullet to a guy and all of the sudden the leg is going to blow off or a torso blow off lol.

what would be great is that if u shoot a guy from a lower position u will see the blood splater in the roof or in the wall a litte something like what u see in counter strike. and why would u like something like that? well when i see signs of blood i just follow a trail to hunt down the winners of that battle. after all those guys problably are who will give trouble to ur team.
  05:43:34  8 September 2005
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SNIPER-X
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There is blood and "gore" in STALKER. But only occurs for now when you are trapped in a "meat mincer" anomalie. What it does, it sucks you in and then pulls you up and twrils you around in circles until you explode into bits.

Otherwise weapon to weapon impact/lose a limb. Is currently undecided, and will probably be left out because of countries like germany ect. that don't tolerate that content.
  09:50:39  8 September 2005
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M-Totenkopf
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There is blood and "gore" in STALKER. But only occurs for now when you are trapped in a "meat mincer" anomalie. What it does, it sucks you in and then pulls you up and twrils you around in circles until you explode into bits.

Otherwise weapon to weapon impact/lose a limb. Is currently undecided, and will probably be left out because of countries like germany ect. that don't tolerate that content.
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oh i see i think its reaseneble, thx for the info tho, i lovin this game more every time i learn about it.
  16:47:50  8 September 2005
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SNIPER-X
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Here just click on the DirectX 9.1 trailer here. You will see the example of a mutant explode.
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1246
Enjoy
  01:28:51  10 September 2005
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M-Totenkopf
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OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG....

WOW i dont have wods the game is BEYOND my expectetions.

the only thing i didnt like was THQ logo first in the game.

i was watching the other videos and i cant stop watching them and imagine my self playing it.

Oh u know if u can fly the MI-27?
  01:55:32  10 September 2005
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Fux0r666
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*sigh*

no helecopters are flyable... I refer you to the faq.
  03:04:54  10 September 2005
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*sigh*

no helecopters are flyable... I refer you to the faq.
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The helicopter isn't flyable, sorry dude.
  12:59:09  11 September 2005
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M-Totenkopf
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its ok, after all we dont know if we did ever got trained to fly helicopters.

and besides in the story of the game we did loose our memory. the rest i guess we learn along the way.
  19:35:07  15 September 2005
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Mercury
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Bloodrayne 2, now that's gore But i doubt i will be seing any super sexy babes in leather uniforms with blades running in the zone...Or will i?
  20:04:46  15 September 2005
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ZeroCommand
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This game shouldn't have a blood and gore limiter. Just go with full gore. i mean your gonna see a blood sucker eating someone might as well see the blood being sucked.
  20:36:49  15 September 2005
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wondervirus
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I think the subtext was really gore from bullets and such... but yeah, it
WOULD be a nice and creepy touch of the critters eating people was not
a neat and pretty affair.

It'd be an even bigger deterrant to getting zapped .. seing your corpse get
turned into kibbles & bits.
  21:36:04  15 September 2005
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Fux0r666
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To put this into perspective, 'kibbles and bits' or gibs like that is kind of gory but it's not realistic. I don't personally find it very disturbing... now, if the mutant in that video was being torn in half, say, by the meat grinder, and you see it stretching until it's spine pops, then its soft tissue began to stretch until it eventually tore, and then its guts unspooled as it came in half and hung down to the floor, I think that that would be a little on the gamy side. Random gibs coming out of some particle blood effect never really disturbed me. Actually, I think it's kind of silly.

Also, there isn't exactly much in firefights that would push the gore envelope except headshots from high powered rifles. And personally, I don't think there is ever a problem with limitting gore via controls. If nothing else, it can help you reduce lag.
  21:59:04  15 September 2005
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wondervirus
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Fux: I'm certainly not talking about John Woo or slasher flick gore spattering
walls, floor ceiling, and the obligatory shocked looking innocent bystander.

Sometimes a little gore IS appropriate and adds to the excitement.

Aside: I've been playing bf2 quite a bit of late, it does juuust fine despite
there being no real gore at all.
  02:02:14  29 September 2005
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Ryujin
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I my opinion blood and gore adds more emotion to taking down an enemy. you shoot a dozen troopers in most games and you really don't notice it. medal of honor or call of duty are good examples. While this is good for "Hollywood" style games. however if you've played SOF 2 or similar you really notice it when you put 7.62 in'em. It adds more feeling to fighting. The SOF level of gore isn't nessary to capture this effect and probably isn't right for stalker, but there should be blood along the levels of half-life series. Enough that doesn't look like that stalker wanted to take a nap while you were shooting at him. All thats really nessary is wound textures and some blood splater on walls/floor. nothing real messy...

PS it would be freaky to have fairly messy monster victims laying about
  07:22:52  29 September 2005
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I agree.. I usually winced at what the corpses looked like in SOF2. They did the deathmasks quite well.
  01:56:06  9 November 2005
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I think the limit should be, at most, a limb being shot off by a close shotgun/high powered rifle round ala FEAR, or RPG hit. Blood should splatter on the wall behind the victim unless from a lower powered bullet.

Dudes exploding or actual guts splattering about is just unneccesary. However, looking at old trailers, in several instances you see mangled corpses of either humans or humanoid mutants with no lower halves. Could be victims of anomalies, could be mutant lunch leftovers. GSC has to have some kind of gruesome streak in 'em , though it's possible they've softened up in the past few years of development.
  08:47:33  9 November 2005
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SNIPER-X
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I think the limit should be, at most, a limb being shot off by a close shotgun/high powered rifle round ala FEAR, or RPG hit. Blood should splatter on the wall behind the victim unless from a lower powered bullet.

Dudes exploding or actual guts splattering about is just unneccesary. However, looking at old trailers, in several instances you see mangled corpses of either humans or humanoid mutants with no lower halves. Could be victims of anomalies, could be mutant lunch leftovers. GSC has to have some kind of gruesome streak in 'em , though it's possible they've softened up in the past few years of development.
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Try watching the particle gore effect in "The toughest enemy" trailer. There's some bits and pieces there, but are particle animations with sprite effects.
  17:48:14  19 November 2005
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Robertino_lt
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Hmm.. On the flip side of the coin, gore for gore's sake is cheap and childish. Now, not that I've ever shot anyone, but I don't think that there's a whole lot of 'gore' in shooting someone. You produce a 6 mm hole in someone and that's what you see.. I suppose the majority of gore in the game would come from the predatory mutants eating stalkers.
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you obvoiusly haven't seen how terrorists torture russian soldiers with the ak 47 they shoot into live targets from short distance into the face or maybe the nerve centers and where the bullet hits a huge hole appears or if the nerve situation it cuts everything in it's way until the hand is no longer controlable and that should give lots of pain to the victim
  22:18:38  26 May 2006
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IceBallz
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I want all enemies explode when i hit them with my minigun. Becurse the pressure the bullets make to their bodies... And when i knife a stalker i should see their cuts swelling out, when i stabbing them in their torsos... When i shooot a 9mm in their heads. I should see pieces of their brains fly out behind them on the walls or ground...

Irony
  17:00:12  5 August 2006
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Dulus
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I want all enemies explode when i hit them with my minigun. Becurse the pressure the bullets make to their bodies... And when i knife a stalker i should see their cuts swelling out, when i stabbing them in their torsos... When i shooot a 9mm in their heads. I should see pieces of their brains fly out behind them on the walls or ground...

Irony
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Heh........a lil bit creepy..........sounds like SOF I
  01:14:38  12 August 2006
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Sub_Zero7745
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I agree.. I usually winced at what the corpses looked like in SOF2. They did the deathmasks quite well.
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I still play SOF2 online, my all time favourite online multiplayer game. (Arms fall off, feet gets torn apart, head gets blown off)... Effects that is missing from HL2, Q4, etc.... Only F.E.A.R had something similar: Head can be blow off by shotgun.... If you ask me this is a stepback in gaming technology!

If you could make this happen in stalker multiplayer then I (and many other sof-alike gore lovers) would be very happy.

In SOF2, ravensoft had their own "hitbox" system in the models itself, called "GHOUL2". I guess in SOF1 they used "GHOUL".

(Also, check out the thread on my wish for a sof2-alike multiplayer mode, INF, here -> [link]https://www.gsc-game.com/main.php?t=community&s=forums&s_game_type=xr&thm_page=1&thm_id=3536&sec_id=4[/link] )
  00:54:04  6 September 2006
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Here's what I wanna see in STALKER, as far as blood and gore :
1) Soldier of Fortune 2 aspects
2) FEAR system, where we can shoot off limbs
3) Gears of War Style blood, which actually has properties similar to other liquids, such as water. It is transparant and looks thick, not too "liquidy."

The blood should stain surfaces.
  21:37:04  6 September 2006
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wondervirus
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I really do like the idea of #3.. it would be total eye candy, and nothing more.
Still...gruesomely appealing
  15:46:56  7 September 2006
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piR8
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If STALKER should be realistic it has to be a LOT of gore in it.
For example a shot in the head by a 5.56mm weapon doesn't create a small head and some blood, it removes the head...
So, if STALKER is going to be realistic you have to add a LOT of gore.
If the gore was done properly then the game would be violent and still worth playing.
But, if it was made like the gore in the movie "Braindead" or "Bad taste" (Both Peter Jacksson movies), you would laugh at the game and find it more like some kind of joke.

On the other hand, STALKER isn't very realistic (that DOESN'T mean that the game is bad), because of the zombies, mutants etc in it.
So maybe STALKER should focus on the story, the creatures, the enviroments etc instead of focusing on much gore.

I have to admit that I would like to shoot my enemies into pieces, seeing them crawl on the ground leavnig blood-trails after them.
  12:17:12  8 September 2006
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If STALKER should be realistic it has to be a LOT of gore in it.
For example a shot in the head by a 5.56mm weapon doesn't create a small head and some blood, it removes the head...
So, if STALKER is going to be realistic you have to add a LOT of gore.
If the gore was done properly then the game would be violent and still worth playing.
But, if it was made like the gore in the movie "Braindead" or "Bad taste" (Both Peter Jacksson movies), you would laugh at the game and find it more like some kind of joke.

On the other hand, STALKER isn't very realistic (that DOESN'T mean that the game is bad), because of the zombies, mutants etc in it.
So maybe STALKER should focus on the story, the creatures, the enviroments etc instead of focusing on much gore.

I have to admit that I would like to shoot my enemies into pieces, seeing them crawl on the ground leavnig blood-trails after them.
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1. A 556 rounds to the head would NOT remove your head from your torso. (from left side anterior to front side postirior) It creates about a 1/2 inch entry wound with a 1 inch temporary wound channel that expands through its target to usually create a 3-4 inch exit would. Bone fragments are a bitch.

2. A battle field doesent become very gory until people start playing with explosives. Normal rounds (.223, .308, 7.62, 5.45) will create little 1/4th to 1/2 inch holes in people and 1-2 inch exit wounds. Your organs arent going ot be leaking out through those holes. There will be bleeding, however not as much shown in modern games. That being said blood tends to get more soaked up in clothing than spilling out onto the ground.
 
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