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  12:32:21  28 January 2004
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PRES_00
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I haven't followed the literary contest up to now. To be honest I've only started reading the first part of "Predator of one, Prey of another".

I've noticed on the Stalker site that the "Zone Tales" has ratings for each story. Only good trip (haven't read yet, sorry) has a good grade of 9.64 (almost 100 percent). Why don't the other stroies even have a passing mark (60 percent).

My reason for asking is that I assume that a lot more quality work could have been found in such a contest. Is it because some just read the first story that appears on the page and don't bother with the rest?
  22:55:27  28 January 2004
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Ian_C
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On forum: 08/02/2003
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I haven't followed the literary contest up to now. To be honest I've only started reading the first part of "Predator of one, Prey of another".

I've noticed on the Stalker site that the "Zone Tales" has ratings for each story. Only good trip (haven't read yet, sorry) has a good grade of 9.64 (almost 100 percent). Why don't the other stroies even have a passing mark (60 percent).

My reason for asking is that I assume that a lot more quality work could have been found in such a contest. Is it because some just read the first story that appears on the page and don't bother with the rest?
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Well, basically the literary contest is fundamentally flawed.

It's very easy to use multiple I.Ds to vote other peoples' stories down, which is why even 'Loss of Innocence' which was #1 before Good Trip didn't rate even a 7. As soon as someone decides they don't like you being at number 1 there's pretty much nothing you can do to retaliate, they usually keep voting you down until you're off the top ten ( at which point, strangely enough, the voting down stops ) so you're no longer considered a threat to them.

GSC has admitted that the whole thing just doesn't work, but are keeping it open so that exposure of Stalker stays high until the game is released, it has become little more than a P.R exercise, I'm sorry to say. If you comb through all of the stories I have little doubt you'll find some that deserve a place in the top 10 but are nowhere near it, that's why GSC are now reading all the stories themselves and making the final decisions based on their own personal judgements.

It's a shame it all went pear-shaped, but just goes to show that if you give people anonymity and enough opportunity they'll just see how much they can get away with.
  01:54:58  29 January 2004
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johnadaniels
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that's why GSC are now reading all the stories themselves and making the final decisions based on their own personal judgements.
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Where did you hear that? or did you make it up
  11:54:45  29 January 2004
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Ian_C
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that's why GSC are now reading all the stories themselves and making the final decisions based on their own personal judgements.
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Where did you hear that? or did you make it up
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Lol! I only create fiction in my stories sir.

GSC have admitted that they are reading all of the stories, so the logical conclusion is that when the competition finishes they'll examine the top 10 and, if there are some entries that plainly don't deserve to be there, exercise their own judgement. It wouldn't reflect well on them to have 10 winners on the CD which were sub-par, yet the contest still remains open to keep exposure of Stalker alive, hence my earlier comments.
  01:41:15  30 January 2004
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johnadaniels
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GSC have admitted that they are reading all of the stories, so the logical conclusion is that when the competition finishes.
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So GSC did not actualy say they were going to judge the contest?

I say this because when you submit your story it says that it will be judged by the
votes receives by the public. No where does it say GSC is going to judge.
  06:18:55  30 January 2004
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Doc Jones
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GSC have admitted that they are reading all of the stories, so the logical conclusion is that when the competition finishes.

So GSC did not actualy say they were going to judge the contest?

I say this because when you submit your story it says that it will be judged by the
votes receives by the public. No where does it say GSC is going to judge.
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Extreme example:

Debbie Does the Zone

Somehow the author is able by some means to get it into the top ten via friends, hacking or both. I think GSC would make an executive cut.
  12:21:23  30 January 2004
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Ian_C
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I say this because when you submit your story it says that it will be judged by the
votes receives by the public. No where does it say GSC is going to judge.
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Well, they wouldn't would they? They only admitted as much on this forum after some pressure, as they knew that they were placating a small bunch of people and, as a whole, the message wouldn't get out to everyone. If your aim is to use the Literary Contest to generate publicity, why would you come straight out announce that all votes are superflous?

I do agree with Doc Jones tho, they will most likely use this authority in extreme examples of obvious cheating, although it would be a shame to see some of the more bland examples earn a place just because there was nothing really wrong about them as opposed to them actually being good.
  14:06:06  30 January 2004
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Nauris Krauze
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oh.. I had been absent for some time (quite a long time, actually). Top10 looks like a battlefield now. Over 2500 votes for some of them, from comments it seems like people were voting either 1 or 10...

Voting should require voters being logged in. Maybe using the same account as these forums, to not overcomplicate things. Of course, its possible to use dummy accounts, but at least thats more hassle.

But hey, I should keep quiet, i made it to top10. My preciousss 15 minutes of fame... until some kid will buy 20 seats in ecafe for 5 min ..ehm.
  10:42:57  31 January 2004
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Amoki
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On forum: 07/31/2003
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that's why GSC are now reading all the stories themselves and making the final decisions based on their own personal judgements.
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Where did you hear that? or did you make it up
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Says ME! AMOKI! Atem mailed me and told me so about two months ago. Oh, wait- you were so mad about no one taking care of your work then at the moment... too bad.
  10:46:56  31 January 2004
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Amoki
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On forum: 07/31/2003
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GSC have admitted that they are reading all of the stories, so the logical conclusion is that when the competition finishes.

So GSC did not actualy say they were going to judge the contest?

I say this because when you submit your story it says that it will be judged by the
votes receives by the public. No where does it say GSC is going to judge.

Extreme example:

Debbie Does the Zone

Somehow the author is able by some means to get it into the top ten via friends, hacking or both. I think GSC would make an executive cut.
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Nope. They do it by changing their IPs- just type winipcfg on "Run" in your windows and reset your IP. THat's it. Look, I know the way to do it, doen't meant I use it (well, at least after I repent..., which was about two years ago, 5 months after my first entry, I think...)
 
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