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  10:09:10  7 January 2004
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Amoki
back with a vengeance
(V.I.P.)

 

 
On forum: 07/31/2003
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Writers and nonwriters

Barbara Miller:
I found out about this contest just a few weeks ago and entered a couple of stories at the last minute. My son,The Oath, posted them on this forum. Having done that, I then proceded to read every story posted on the contest site and try to give it a fair rating. This proved to be unexpectedly tedious. It also soon became apparent that the voting did not reflect the quality of the stories. The relatively few writers who are serious abot their writing are out numbered by those who are just out to get the game and the glory? Some of the stories were truly awful. But to those of you who are serious about you writing, I would say this, This contest is no measue of your ability to write or of the quality of your stories, so don't let it get you down.
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Ja, I found your comment on my "My stalker's memoir cont'd. . That was an abandoned project, somewhat a testing to gauge people's interest ( even so, for that piece I spent 30 hours of typing, would you believe that? ) . Found out length isn't on their favourite list, so your comment was already implemented a long time ago. But thanks for the comments anyway!


fed up

I don't know about others, but frankly, I had it. The stories here are mostly about most of these :- source of the Zone, revenge, killing, mutant hunting, people trying to find a living... ahhhhhhhh! why can't there be anything fresh! The Zone is a place on earth, and like any place on earth, everybody who lives in it gotta have a personality. But the characters here were like... robots, as if the authors created them merely just for the short period of the story. Those people have no personality (or mad ones). I had been in the stalker contest for a year and 3 months more, and most of the thing I saw was beginning to get me. Unless for a few exception (maybe 10% of the total population of the hundred plus stories), the rest bored me pretty quickly. People just die, die, die. So does mutants.

And the theme... most of them are only about survival, or cheating death , or getting revenge, or trying to describe a Zone adventure. Almost 90% of all stories were like that. For those who just started, those might still be interesting, but for me, I had enough...

I'm not finish yet. You know what got me the most? Those friggin' stories in the top ten list were pure boredom for me. nothing personal here. The really good ones, like 'the prigrimage' 'the difference between you and me' ' the best laid plans' , went up and down like there were springs on their heels. It realy frustrates me, to know that goodspeed, who is also a member of his local amateur writing club (his writing ain't amateur), got spoofed by kids who must have bribed everyone in his school to get a copy of his game.

So please. Do consider what theme you want to tackle before you write! STALKER is a great game, but it is also non-linear, meaning that everything inside isn't mere scripts that were triggered when you did somthing like in Half-life. If stories like that keep going on, it will b before long before I join the legions of '1-voters'...

But of course, anyone who post their story here will get their fair share of comment, so don't be intimidated by my post here. I would only be to happy to help, like those who had always helped me along when I got started, though my comments will not be so kind if your stories felled under the usual genre.
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  12:01:32  7 January 2004
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Ian_C
The man lacking a plan
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On forum: 08/02/2003
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Ian, you're right about one thing, and that is that I have made some really snide and quite possibly hurtful remarks to at least one writer (that I remember clearly, that is), and frankly, I'm quite ashamed of myself; there's no excuse for talking down to people like that. I owe that person a serious apology.

I've been going through a hard time in my personal life lately, been really cynical, and I took it out on someone through the internet... how stupid, immature, and hateful. It's got little to do with the success of my story. I dropped interest in the voting system long ago... even if it worked the way it ought to, I'm not sure a popularity contest is a decent way of deciding what makes a good story, anyways. In any case, when I saw my story jumped a point and a half over a week of holidays, my first reaction was that somebody was tampering with my score (it having changed by more than a point despite the vote-terrorism) and that people were going to accuse me of inflating it ('cuz, you know, that would be such a self-esteem boost, or something).


*sigh* Bah. I feel awful.



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It's very big of you to admit all that, so don't feel too badly about using the Internet as a form of catharsis when you're in a bad mood or having a bad time ( the people I worry about are those who do this all the time and don't even realise it ), it's a very easy thing to do and something I've been guilty of a few times in the past.

I absolutly agree a popularity contest is not the best way of deciding a story's worth. The word 'popularity' itself has negative connotations with me; I always relate it to people altering their own personalities to fit in or picking up bad characteristics just to become popular ( of course there are those who can be popular just by being themselves, but let's not talk about them right now ).

I know how easy it is to be down on your stories as well - you get something out which seemed good at the time but when you see it up there, day after day, it begins to feel bland and flavourless to you, really cliched and tired, but you have to remember that those who read the story haven't spent as much time with it, or are as close to it, as you are, so their views will only very rarely coincide with your own.

Sorry to hear about your bad patches, I've been through a few myself recently. An easy way to make yourself feel better is to leave another piece of feedback to follow the one which you were ashamed of leaving - not only will you feel better but it gives you a chance to let others know that you didn't really mean it, you don't deserve to be carrying around negative vibes from that one temporary 'blip'.
  18:57:00  7 January 2004
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GSMARTENS
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On forum: 10/21/2003
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fed up

But of course, anyone who post their story here will get their fair share of comment, so don't be intimidated by my post here. I would only be to happy to help, like those who had always helped me along when I got started, though my comments will not be so kind if your stories felled under the usual genre.


Um, you never commented on my story Amiko. Thanks for the respect man, really. Besides the fact that my story doesnt take place in the Zone at all, no guns of any sort are fired, and the only people that died were when i set up background information to drive the plot, I would say that my writing is not all that bad. So if you were so serious on commenting maybe you could felled on over to my post, eh? Come on man, don't be a hypocrite, quit gripping, and try to keep it in perspective.

Well, one thing, your stories' heading was unattractive enough to keep me out of my busy schecudule to finish my "Prey of one, Predator or another" , but I will do my best to get the stuff into my PDA and read them when I am not reading Tom Clancy's Rainbow six on the same machine

And relax, I always will give my fair share of comments on items here, but just that I am stil trying (desperately) to finish the story - I am allowed till Saturday to pass up, but I think I can delay it to next monday, and to say, I put a lot of real effort in this one ( two months ! 170 pages of forum post solely to my research of weapons.) So forgive me.

The other few that I owe my apology to is Chansd5, whose 'there is no bluebird in the Zone' was cut and paste onto html format, but I didn't bother to upload it into my PDA too... Narrow House Ukraine is currently on my target list, so bear with me.
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ya, that would be cool if you read it. maybe i'll read yours when you post it up , but if you knew what a narrow house is then maybe the story's title would be more appealing, but you probably don't know what it is. So whatever -holla
  00:09:11  8 January 2004
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Chansd5
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On forum: 11/26/2003
 

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fed up

But of course, anyone who post their story here will get their fair share of comment, so don't be intimidated by my post here. I would only be to happy to help, like those who had always helped me along when I got started, though my comments will not be so kind if your stories felled under the usual genre.


Um, you never commented on my story Amiko. Thanks for the respect man, really. Besides the fact that my story doesnt take place in the Zone at all, no guns of any sort are fired, and the only people that died were when i set up background information to drive the plot, I would say that my writing is not all that bad. So if you were so serious on commenting maybe you could felled on over to my post, eh? Come on man, don't be a hypocrite, quit gripping, and try to keep it in perspective.

Well, one thing, your stories' heading was unattractive enough to keep me out of my busy schecudule to finish my "Prey of one, Predator or another" , but I will do my best to get the stuff into my PDA and read them when I am not reading Tom Clancy's Rainbow six on the same machine

And relax, I always will give my fair share of comments on items here, but just that I am stil trying (desperately) to finish the story - I am allowed till Saturday to pass up, but I think I can delay it to next monday, and to say, I put a lot of real effort in this one ( two months ! 170 pages of forum post solely to my research of weapons.) So forgive me.

The other few that I owe my apology to is Chansd5, whose 'there is no bluebird in the Zone' was cut and paste onto html format, but I didn't bother to upload it into my PDA too... Narrow House Ukraine is currently on my target list, so bear with me.
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Oh thanks mate, I am glad someone would put my work on their PDAs. When you are done Amoki, post your story in the forums.. and I'll print it out and read through the entire thing and would love to get a taste of your stories. Schools been tough lately and I haven't gotten the time to read anything besides my school book, A very entertaining play "A Streetcar named Desire".

by the way, IanC.. hows that big story coming? The deadline still got you down? :

edit: Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six was a great book.
 
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