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  20:54:29  14 July 2014
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Joubarbe
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On forum: 04/02/2009
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Well guess what Steelyglint ? It's not about you ; it's about some players that do not agree with the fact that you can break the game so easily (join the Duty, and you're doomed). And that's how you design a game (especially in early access) ; you listen to the community.

Now I think they all well aware of these problems. Just wait the next patch, we'll see how they deal with it.
  21:45:40  14 July 2014
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SCAVENGER1
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On forum: 03/31/2007
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far as joining a faction, i havent done it this time and since i just got done with the secrete lab i am now green with duty lol and i still have a good rep as well

lol last patch i had a bad rep so this is play through is looking better lol
  21:58:34  14 July 2014
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Steelyglint
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On forum: 06/06/2009
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Well guess what Steelyglint ? It's not about you ; it's about some players that do not agree with the fact that you can break the game so easily (join the Duty, and you're doomed). And that's how you design a game (especially in early access) ; you listen to the community.
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Please point out where anyone, other than you, said anything was 'about me'. What is this need to aim your bile at me? I spend my time here as anyone else does - making posts and answering posts. If you don't like what I have to say, no-one is forcing you to read it, so just skip my posts. Pretty simple, huh?


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Now I think they all well aware of these problems. Just wait the next patch, we'll see how they deal with it.
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The fact that joining Duty kills the game is a bug which will, undoubtedly, be fixed.

However, the game-breaker that was actually under discussion was about killing Sin in Cordon. Not joining Duty. That arrives as a consequence of killing Sin in Cordon, which there was never any need to do.

I am not responsible for the homicidal tendencies of others, be it in a game or out in the real world. Not killing them worked perfectly fine for me. But, then, I'm not hooked on murder for fun, preferring to respect the right of any NPC to his life - unless he endangers mine. The Sin didn't do that, so that would appear to be the way to go.

There was no-one there telling me that killing Sin would hurt my game. I found out as a consequence of having some moral basis to my character and acting upon it, even if it wasn't in a 'real' situation. They didn't shoot at me, so why would I shoot at them? Not doing that allowed me to see that they aren't really enemies, but victims. And Strelok is a character who does a lot of helping victims in all sorts of Stalker games and mods. It is called 'staying in character'.

Trying to force the Strelok character into the shape of an indiscriminate killer is bound to have adverse consequences. Every decision you make in a Stalker game involves, to some extent, ethics and morality. And the results are self-evident.

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  23:53:46  15 July 2014
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Grenadier
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On forum: 07/13/2014
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Well, you're obviously a very "special" Stalker there Steelyglint.
Bravo on your superior intellect and play style. (slow clap)

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Totally agree with that. Just let him stay in his own little world

There is definitely something to do with the Sins in Cordon. A simple story breaker in the first hour - nothing to do with morality or ethics.
  00:27:13  16 July 2014
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memeics
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On forum: 07/07/2014
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There is definitely something to do with the Sins in Cordon. A simple story breaker in the first hour - nothing to do with morality or ethics.
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I disagree. If you kill members of a faction in any RPG expect that to have consequences (usually in the form of making them enemies and not getting quests from them). In any RPG, if your intention is to maximize the number of quests done then make sure you don't upset anyone (which means avoid quests that ask you to kill people, focus on monsters, fedex quests, only kill NPCs after you've determined that doesn't have consequences that you're not prepared to deal with).

The game breaker is not that you killed the Sin guys in Cordon, the game breaker is the bug that doesn't allow you to forward the main quest by joining Duty. That bug is probably already fixed in the next patch that is supposed to be released in a few days.

Your options are to either restart the game and not make Sin enemies before you finish their quests, or fix the bug yourself (and post it here!) or wait for the next patch. The rest of the discussion seems rather pointless.
  00:35:36  16 July 2014
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Nite
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On forum: 09/25/2008
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few days? I heard from Dezodor the team guy who makes the patch installer won't be back until end of july so it will be a few weeks at least before we see the next patch.
  00:40:11  16 July 2014
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memeics
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On forum: 07/07/2014
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That's what was said on another thread. I wouldn't hold my breath.
  00:59:11  16 July 2014
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dezodor
level designer
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On forum: 04/08/2007
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grabbed the installer from git, so i can make it too. no need to wait. still we are trying to make it more playable: like the join duty will be hidden till its safe to join them, etc. but if you guys still kill the neutral sins in cordon, the others on darkscape will fuuuu on you
  01:04:37  16 July 2014
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memeics
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On forum: 07/07/2014
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Good news. I'm a software engineer (although Linux only) so if you need help with any tasks that you think could be handed over to someone without experience with STALKER modding/developing let me know (ex. I use Git at work every day).
  01:08:38  16 July 2014
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Nite
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On forum: 09/25/2008
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damn next patch will be out sooner then I thought then lol, I'm up to the countryside right now in the storyline currently, I figured those that didn't get hit with the duty/sin bug would have time to finish at least once on 1.3002
 
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