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  23:16:06  13 July 2014
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wrangler708
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On forum: 04/15/2007
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Pissed off SIN... Failed "Go deeper into the mines"

So, I'm running from the helicopter in the car and I make it to the tunnels.
I go further in to get the mission where you find the entrance to the mines then go see Veles.

As soon as I get the mission, it fails and I get a message from Petrenko, I think, that I have pissed off SIN during my escape and somehow Voronin can fix this and something about joining "Dolg" which I assume is Duty.

So, I have seen Voronin, joined Duty, done the Duty mission, nothing at all about seeing SIN.

Did I break it somehow?
  23:22:37  13 July 2014
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SCAVENGER1
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did you kill the SIN that was in cordon? when you had to save Fox from that group of SIN ? if you did that could be it
  23:36:35  13 July 2014
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wrangler708
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Killed them the first time I played it and no problem..
Killed them this time and now it is problem???

Is there a way to get back on track?

Why would the game tell me to see Voronin to fix it?

Also, who is Ivancov? Voronin tells me I should go see him to get a good shooter but there is no mission.
  23:38:36  13 July 2014
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S3r1ous
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Killed them the first time I played it and no problem..
Killed them this time and now it is problem???

Is there a way to get back on track?

Why would the game tell me to see Voronin to fix it?

Also, who is Ivancov? Voronin tells me I should go see him to get a good shooter but there is no mission.
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Ivancov never existed as far as i can tell.
  23:40:24  13 July 2014
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SCAVENGER1
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---QUOTATION---
Killed them the first time I played it and no problem..
Killed them this time and now it is problem???

Is there a way to get back on track?

Why would the game tell me to see Voronin to fix it?

Also, who is Ivancov? Voronin tells me I should go see him to get a good shooter but there is no mission.
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since this new patch , it could be that killing those SINS would now cause troubles and i remember the last time this was mention that the devs said that you shouldnt kill them..

i am glad i didnt cause they were all yellow to me this time through. so i didnt have to walk on pins and needles ya know.. since the other patch they were all red so i had to watch my step alot.

only thing you can do is go back to that point of saving Fox and not kill them. i know that is a lot of hard work gone down the drain. but since you cant go any farther, you may have to..
  23:43:09  13 July 2014
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dezodor
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killing sin is a problem, since they are part of the same faction, and if you kill some, the relations will change.

we even made them neutral to player, because there were players in previous patch who killed them even if it wasnt necessary (and could cause problems later)

joining duty also makes sin enemy to player.
  23:51:22  13 July 2014
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Steelyglint
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Killed them the first time I played it and no problem..
Killed them this time and now it is problem???

Is there a way to get back on track?

Why would the game tell me to see Voronin to fix it?

Also, who is Ivancov? Voronin tells me I should go see him to get a good shooter but there is no mission.

Ivancov never existed as far as i can tell.
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I'm pretty sure Ivancov is a Duty guy in a basement in the Rostock Factory map. It was well into the game before you met him. I haven't tried the new patch yet, so the name may have been given to another NPC or just the same NPC put somewhere else. He might even still be in his basement and awaiting your visit.

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  23:56:10  13 July 2014
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wrangler708
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Ah.
Well, I guess this playthrough is lost.

Heh. Lost. See what I did there.

I'm Stalkered out anyway.

Thanks!

Seems as though, at some point this was considered because along with the fail, I get that detailed transmission telling me that I should go see Voronin to fix this.

Also, I did notice that the guys guarding Fox were yellow this time. I went to each of them trying to get somebody to talk to tell me what I have to do to save Fox and none of them say anything. Fox don't say anything. So... I , kill them all and save Fox. He thanks me and we all go on our way.
I will tell you that, in addition to killing those guys, I made an unscheduled trip through the Forest just to look around and I'm pretty sure I remember finding a compound with some guys that were also SIN who I also killed. So...
Something should be done so that people don't lose hours upon hours upon hours of play time for these things that cannot be predicted to totally break the game.
  00:01:01  14 July 2014
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dezodor
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there is only one of them who talks, and it was the same in all versions.
  00:05:35  14 July 2014
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Steelyglint
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Just play the game as you would if it were real. You wouldn't just go around killing people for the hell of it. Especially if they had no designs on you. That's just terrorism or the acts of a psychopath.

Shoot those who shoot at you. The game will not punish you for that. It may well punish you for shooting neutrals and friends. That's just one of the ways that Stalker games differ from the usual FPS item - you can't just grab a weapon and kill everything you meet because doing so will inevitably kill your game before you get much further.

The Sin are a bunch of victims. They were experimented on in the labs, and all they are really trying to do is find some way to reverse what was done to them. Out here in the real world we would sue the ass off anyone who did such a thing to us. In the Zone they don't have that option. Strelok is right and showing his humanitarian tendencies by helping them.

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