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  01:27:40  9 April 2007
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Bez
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On forum: 04/04/2007
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To be able to buy tape to attach magazines together (make reload times faster) would be cool
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This isn't recommend because its easy to bash the end of the magazine causing a debilitating jam. Thats why any respectable military doesn't do it.

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Well like I told you before in some other post,
English is not my main tung so please excuse me
for not knowing the translation to: debilitating jam,

But we do have a special metal piece in our army that connects two magazines together at the bottom and we usually tape it with
the strong duct-tape that you normally use for explosives so the magazines won't fall.

See this image for example:
[link]http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/3e68aa0946dccbee.jpg[/link]

Never had a jam because of this and no one else I know.

Could you please explain me this particular jam
so I can know which one you refer to?
(we use different names for every thing)

I personally think it would be very cool to have that type of
magazine it does make reloading much faster.
  01:35:03  9 April 2007
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Cyjoki
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On forum: 04/05/2007
 

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Cyjoki
04/09/2007 1:55:45
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To be able to buy tape to attach magazines together (make reload times faster) would be cool
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This isn't recommend because its easy to bash the end of the magazine causing a debilitating jam. Thats why any respectable military doesn't do it.


Well like I told you before in some other post,
English is not my main tung so please excuse me
for not knowing the translation to: debilitating jam,

But we do have a special metal piece in our army that connects two magazines together at the bottom and we usually tape it with
the strong duct-tape that you normally use for explosives so the magazines won't fall.

See this image for example:
[link]http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/3e68aa0946dccbee.jpg[/link]

Never had a jam because of this and no one else I know.

Could you please explain me this particular jam
so I can know which one you refer to?
(we use different names for every thing)

I personally think it would be very cool to have that type of
magazine it does make reloading much faster.
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Debilitating means to make unusable. See, when the feed port of the magazine gets bent, and you insert it into your rifle the magazine gets stuck and you have to break the weapon down in order to get it out.

When you have double sided magazine its easy to jump to the ground and then hit the magazine feed port on the ground. Causing a bad jam, this is why usually it isn't done.

I served in some elite units in the United States Marine Core, which don't need to be named. This idea came up a few times and was always rejected due to this problem.
I'm not saying some militaries don't do it.
  01:49:03  9 April 2007
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Bez
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Bez
04/09/2007 1:58:56
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I see what you mean.

Though in the many years I have been to the army
both regular and reserve it never happened to me.

I would guess though,
that some units in my army do not use it for that reason,
or some other reason.

But I am almost sure (though I might be wrong)
that this special metal piece I wrote about,
the one we have in our army, is made in USA
and we import it from the states.

I would imagen that some US units use it no?
Did you ever see this metal thing somewhere?

I am interested to know because
I always thought that this is an American thing,
would be nice to be corrected.
  01:55:25  9 April 2007
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Cyjoki
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On forum: 04/05/2007
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I see what you mean.

Though in the many years I have been to the army
both regular and reserve it never happened to me.

I would guess though,
that some units in my army do not use it for that reason,
or some other reason.

But I am almost sure (though I might be wrong)
that this special metal piece I wrote about,
the one we have in our army, is made in USA
and we import it from the states.

I would imagen that some US units use it no?
Did you ever see this metal thing somewhere?
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Yes, alot of units use it. I just made a note of it never to use one myself. I'm sure if it didn't jam my gun, it would be very helpful thanks to the fast reload time.

I guess you just have to weigh the risks with the benefits.
  05:06:04  9 April 2007
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StarkeRealm
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On forum: 04/06/2007
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IIRC, The SIG 550's mags interlock on their own, so there is that. It's a sort of snap lock mechinisim, I haven't spent any time with the rifle in question but I have seen a few (in person and in photos), so at least with that one, interlocking is an option.

As for taping mags, it's a good thing you're not in any self respecting military in STALKER isn't it?

Strikes me as just the kind of amiture s--- the zone goes for in droves.

Word to the wise, Cyjoki: most who go in for that kind of work don't draw a big circle around what they were doing, most marines who didn't do that kind of work, are very proud of the units the served in.
  05:53:41  9 April 2007
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HELLBRINGER
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On forum: 04/09/2007
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Good ideas and I support all of them to add to the realism in this game. But the reload times are already unrealistic in this game... I dont think anyone can reload a weapon that quickly.

As far the damaging the feed lip of a magazine if you have them taped together... maybe M-16/M-4 mags because they are not very strong aluminum... but AK makes tend to be stronger and likely wont suffer from this problem. I own both an Ar-15 M4 clone and a few Kalashnikov clones, and the AK mags are much stronger and more durable. I've tried the taping thing myself... it works fine, but its a bit cumbersome and the round sitting at the top of the mag you dont have inserted into the weapon tends to slide outward. I have to push it back into the rear of the mag in order to insert it into the mag wel.
  06:29:34  9 April 2007
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AeroMechanical
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On forum: 04/04/2007
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I'd like to be able to choose the way I load my magazines. As in every third round is an armor-piercing round and every fifth round is a tracer-round. Something like that would be cool.

Love,
aero
  06:54:56  9 April 2007
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StarkeRealm
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Hellbringer, it is possible to reload that quickly. But, that's assuming you aren't retaining mags.

If I'm dropping mags, I can beat the in game reload times on the USP, the P99 and the Beretta. But, that is dropping mags, which the Marked One obviously isn't doing... The Makarov reload is a bit fast though, if I understand how it's mag relase is. To drop that mag one handed you have to shift your grip on the gun, move your pinky undernieth the grip to behind the magazine and pull the release back, while fishing for a mag with your other hand, other then that it takes two hands to remove the mag, fish and then put the new one in, so, yes, it's reload is a bit fast... And all of this is assuming that the mag will fall freely once released. The shotgun's iffy, in that the shells would have to be in a vest or something similar. The MP5 reload though... holy hell.
  07:52:11  9 April 2007
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HELLBRINGER
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On forum: 04/09/2007
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The pistols seem okay... I was mainly referring to (although I didn't say) the rifles. The animation seems sped-up somewhat. Sure in real life I can drop the mag and reload quick, but that is pretty damn quick. And trying to move that quickly can cause you to fumble around and miss.

I still think its a bit unrealistic and too fast...
  17:44:24  9 April 2007
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StarkeRealm
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On forum: 04/06/2007
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Yeah, the mp5 and sawed off I'll definatly give you, with the two pump actions coming in close behind. Now I've seen training videos of people reloading rifles as fast as, the LR300 (I think) but it's been a while. It's very possible that the weapon text files actualy have an adjustable reload time, but, I'm not sure off hand.

BTW: am I the only person wondering why there's now revolvers in the game?
 
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