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  20:39:24  7 April 2007
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Cyjoki
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On forum: 04/05/2007
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I've had my double barreled sawed-off shotgun jam AFTER I fired two shells...
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This is very possible. A break-open side-by-side shotgun removes the shells with two spring load extractors that push the shells out after the hammer has gone forward and the gun is opened again. After firing numerous rounds, soot and grime build up on these and can make them stick, causing a jam.

AK-47's are fairly reliable, I've fired a few in all sorts of environments (Sand, Dirt, Water) and they still worked. The AK-74 however, is not nearly as reliable because in an attempt to give more accuracy more moving parts were incorporated.
  01:53:44  8 April 2007
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Viral
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On forum: 03/31/2007
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For the heck of it, found a gun and tossed it into an anomoly for a few seconds and pulled it out a bit below half-health... Trust me, they aren't pretty to use past that point. Tried it with the good ol' AK, TRs 301, and Sig... Couple of shots and welcome to jam land. Lower they got... well, near impossible to use in a gunfight. Jam every two bullets?!?! Thank you sir!
  06:15:37  8 April 2007
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StarkeRealm
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On forum: 04/06/2007
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I've had my double barreled sawed-off shotgun jam AFTER I fired two shells...

This is very possible. A break-open side-by-side shotgun removes the shells with two spring load extractors that push the shells out after the hammer has gone forward and the gun is opened again. After firing numerous rounds, soot and grime build up on these and can make them stick, causing a jam.
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Neat piece of info that.

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AK-47's are fairly reliable, I've fired a few in all sorts of environments (Sand, Dirt, Water) and they still worked. The AK-74 however, is not nearly as reliable because in an attempt to give more accuracy more moving parts were incorporated.
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D'oh!

I kinda wonder why I didn't remember this.


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For the heck of it, found a gun and tossed it into an anomoly for a few seconds and pulled it out a bit below half-health... Trust me, they aren't pretty to use past that point. Tried it with the good ol' AK, TRs 301, and Sig... Couple of shots and welcome to jam land. Lower they got... well, near impossible to use in a gunfight. Jam every two bullets?!?! Thank you sir!
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If you ever play with grenade launchers it's not uncommon to be stripping ammo and gear from weapons with 0% condition, after a gunfight, but, I've never tried to fire them. I was afraid it was acutaly possible for the guns to blow up in my hand.

Actualy, I think misfires from ammo would have been much preferable to this, especialy if it ment a seperate animation to cycle the next round manualy.
  06:34:18  8 April 2007
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BrotherJayne
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On forum: 03/05/2007
 

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AK-47's are fairly reliable, I've fired a few in all sorts of environments (Sand, Dirt, Water) and they still worked. The AK-74 however, is not nearly as reliable because in an attempt to give more accuracy more moving parts were incorporated.

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According to reports from chechnya and afghanistan, and from what my dad said from experiance, the ak 74 is still nearly indestructable. The only thing my dad ever bitched about was that the plastic foregrip got way to slippery when it was rainy, and that the plastic clips squeaked while in chicom vests
  23:32:45  8 April 2007
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DEFKon
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On forum: 04/08/2007
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Idea for mod or improvements

I haven't really had a big problem with weapon jamming, but i would agree that it's frustrating to not be able to clean them. I came up with a couple of quick and dirty solutions though.

1. Add the item "Gun cleaning kit" to be available for sale by the trading posts. The item would grant a 50% reduction in jams for a limited time. Probably a percentage multiplier of the weapon's degradation. That way the effects of cleaning would wear off with use. Because it doesn't prevent degradation or repair it, it's more of a temporary stat boost. If i was doing this as a mod (I'd like to, but I'm lazy ha ha.) I'd just use the graphic and model (and weight) of a med-kit, and make a grayish color to prevent confusion.

2. Add a "Primary gun repair" & "secondary gun repair" services as a selectable job available to trading posts and or various stalkers. If the job is selected the current primary or secondary weapon is removed from the players inventory and a fee applied to the player. After 24 hours or even longer. (?) a perfect condition weapon will be ready when the player comes back. --- or just make another kit, but make the weight something over 50K so that it's not portable to balance out the gameplay?
  23:55:59  8 April 2007
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Cyjoki
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On forum: 04/05/2007
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AK-47's are fairly reliable, I've fired a few in all sorts of environments (Sand, Dirt, Water) and they still worked. The AK-74 however, is not nearly as reliable because in an attempt to give more accuracy more moving parts were incorporated.

According to reports from chechnya and afghanistan, and from what my dad said from experiance, the ak 74 is still nearly indestructable. The only thing my dad ever bitched about was that the plastic foregrip got way to slippery when it was rainy, and that the plastic clips squeaked while in chicom vests
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Its true, both the AK-47 and AK-74 could be beaten on and would still fire properly. But from my experience the '47 is more reliable.

Maybe I just got a poorly made batch.
  01:43:24  10 April 2007
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Alamarian
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But, in battle conditions, weapons with extreemly tight tolerances tend to be less reliable
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Tight tolerances in a rifle with loose clearances will result in a "loose" gun that is manufactured loosely by design. Loose tolerances in a rifle with tight clearance give you a gun that is mostly tight, with poor fit in other places. Loose tolerances mean shitty quality control. It means that parts can deviate farther from spec. This causes malfunctions, it doesn't prevent them.


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even some of the early M16s had serious problems with jamming and malfunctions
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Had nothing to do with how high or low the tolerances were. Mostly caused by an incorrect type of powder and the mentioned cleaning issues.


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so saying that an AK with one will jam isn't really news
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It does, however, illustrate the point about loose tolerances. Wobbling magazines are caused by loose tolerances.


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A break-open side-by-side shotgun removes the shells with two spring load extractors that push the shells out after the hammer has gone forward and the gun is opened again. After firing numerous rounds, soot and grime build up on these and can make them stick, causing a jam.
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Never had that happen with my Stevens but I've seen others with that problem. Like getting unburned powder under a revolver's cylinder star.
 
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