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  01:52:32  5 April 2007
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Chimera
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On forum: 03/31/2007
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Gun Jams

Some people may like them, I have started to dislike them. THey happen far to often, with good quality guns too....I had a AK74su jam up twice in two clips. It gets very annoying. THe novelty of guns jamming has worn off for me. Either disabling the jams altogeher, or making them optional would both work for me.
  07:24:46  5 April 2007
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Raptor
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On forum: 03/24/2007
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I've noticed a lot of jams as well, especially later on when you have to do a lot of shooting and haven't got a lot of time for looting due to radiation or enemies that come from a lot of directions..

I'm just glad the stalker doesn't discard the clip, though..
  01:25:25  6 April 2007
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bobwalt
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On forum: 04/02/2007
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As a gun wears and does not get cleaned it tends to jam more. And some weapons are more prone to this than others. As the green bar for the weapon decreases jamming becomes more likely. I just wish the proper tools were provided so we could adequately maintain our weapons.

Bob
  01:49:56  6 April 2007
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Noctrl
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On forum: 04/06/2007
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Jamming is fine, and pretty cool to have that kind of feature, but its still made wrong. First of all, you only need to remove clip, pull charging handle back to get the bullet out of there and then attach clip back, pull handle again to feed new bullet inside and your all set. You cant fix jamming by changing the clip. The bullet still is there crooked inside the gun.
  01:59:17  6 April 2007
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M0ldyM!LK
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On forum: 03/24/2007
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Most jams can be cleared by dropping the magazine and racking the bolt or slide, especially for weapons like the AK-series. With those weapons its usually just that a round hits the feed ramp crooked and the nose of the round get stuck on the throat of the bore... A jam such as this can be cleared just by racking the bolt back and shaking the rifle and letting the cartridge fall out in some cases.

Other jams just plain suck, such as double feeds, where you have a round stuck in the chamber with another round jammed up behind it, wedged against the bolt and somewhere in the receiver.


Anyways, my point is, every jam is different, but some can indeed by cleared by dropping the mag and re-'cocking'. It would be neat if there were a separate animation or process for reloading on a jam (such as doing a 'mag slap' and using the forward assist to clear a jam on the LR300).
  02:03:45  6 April 2007
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StarkeRealm
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04/06/2007 2:12:14
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That said the AKs have a reputation for not jamming at all to speak of, I once heard about a marine in Viet Nam who picked up an AK 47, and left it in his locker while he was on patrol, he'd come back to the firebase and have to physicaly kick the bolt open (with his boot) because of rust, but once that was done the weapon would fire normaly again. I can understand the SIG 550 or the G36s jamming constantly, especialy in their condition is poor, but an AK really shouldn't jam very often at all, unless it's suffered serious damage.

EDIT: Has anyone else here ever had the sawed off jam on them? It happened to me once or twice as I recall.
  02:58:44  6 April 2007
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M0ldyM!LK
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AKs can and will jam from time to time, but these cases are the fault of the magazine and not the operating system for the most part.


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I can understand the SIG 550
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You do realize that a the SiG 5xx (with the exception of the 51x series, these rifles use a roller blowback system similar to that seen in CETMEs, G3s, etc) series is nothing more than an AK action modified and accurized by the Swiss, right? They are arguably the best assault rifles ever made... Just not anywhere near the amount of proliferation seen with the AK series.
  03:05:25  6 April 2007
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StarkeRealm
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AKs can and will jam from time to time, but these cases are the fault of the magazine and not the operating system for the most part.

I can understand the SIG 550


You do realize that a the SiG 5xx series is nothing more than an AK action modified and accurized by the Swiss, right?
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Not as such, but, yeah, touche, for some reason I keep thinking of the 550 as a G3, I really can't say why. Either way, I'd assume it would be more suseptible to jaming simply because of the tighter tolerances. (That and I've had hedious luck with the P226 and the P220. (Out of less then 200 rounds down the barrel, I've had two serious malfunctions, one was my fault, on the 220, but as for the 226, your guess is as good as mine.)) So that might also make me wonder a bit about SIG reliablity.

EDIT: Good point about the mag on the AK, still, jamming every few hundred rounds, and sometimes every 60 or so does seem a little steap. Could be that the ammo in The Zone is that poor...
  03:45:35  6 April 2007
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M0ldyM!LK
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Off topic:

I'm going out on a limb here and assuming you're in the US

Sig USA's quality isn't exactly up to par with their Swiss counterparts, and if I'm not mistaken, P22x handguns in the US are made by them.


Although I will agree with you on the tolerance issue of the 55x. The tolerances on the 55x are significantly tighter than your standard AK. For sporting and military use, the rifles should be superb so long as the user does their part.

Will you be able to kick open the bolt and still fire it after it has rusted shut after being submerged for a week, though? That's a whole different story

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  03:52:19  6 April 2007
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StarkeRealm
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You are correct, they're manufactured in Virginia as I recall, Most Walther P99s in the states are manufactured by Smith and Wesson under contract (again as I recall), which may explain my dicey experiance with them. Then again, I have had excellent luck with the SIG P232 and 229... go figure.

As for the 550, STALKER doesn't let you do your part... so, yeah, there is that problem. And, we're back to it jamming happily when the mood strikes it.

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