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  09:38:48  6 July 2013
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Buzzard_Burbridge
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That oh-so elusive gun bob effect...

You know what I'm talking about, how your gun moved up and down when running in the old trailers like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35YJrjGZN4g

I found it curious that it's missing from all of the "old stalker" mods being released lately, so I am determined to know why was it cut in the first place? Why is it so hard to restore? And how can I restore it? My only clue is I figure it's somewhere in the game dll's.
  13:29:01  6 July 2013
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Kocayine
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Couldn't it be part of the weapons animation? I don't know, but now that you bring it up and I look at guns ingame now, I really notice how the bobbing is 'missing' :/
  13:31:56  7 July 2013
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Buzzard_Burbridge
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See, I'm not sure it's just an animation added to the weapon. There are mods that have restored old animations and weapons mods from builds but the bob is not restored as well.

I think it was something like an effector, like the way the camera moves when walking, but it was part of xrGame.dll or one of the bin files, and was cut out of the game dlls.
  13:55:30  7 July 2013
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I think it was something like an effector, like the way the camera moves when walking, but it was part of xrGame.dll or one of the bin files, and was cut out of the game dlls.
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I bet it's in xrGame.dll too, but as i remember I didn't see any public binary updater dif file with this feature.

If you seen this in a mod, maybe someone has this dif file at home, for a specific version of xrGame.dll.
  14:07:07  7 July 2013
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Buzzard_Burbridge
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I think it was something like an effector, like the way the camera moves when walking, but it was part of xrGame.dll or one of the bin files, and was cut out of the game dlls.

I bet it's in xrGame.dll too, but as i remember I didn't see any public binary updater dif file with this feature.

If you seen this in a mod, maybe someone has this dif file at home, for a specific version of xrGame.dll.
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The only place I have seen this is in the old builds, and in a Lost Alpha preview video. I don't know how they restored it, weather through dll's, the source code which they have access to, or if its just animations. But good luck getting anyone from the LA team to share.
  16:11:27  7 July 2013
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Kocayine
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Well atleast the LA engine mods will hopefully work with most other mods as well, which is gonna be great.
  17:55:09  7 July 2013
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F4ustus
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but only if the LA ever comes out
  18:05:04  7 July 2013
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Buzzard_Burbridge
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the investigation continues...

I took a few minutes to poke around xrGame.dll with a hex editor and haven't found anything so far.

But I did see these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAPt2CuKUy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgFfPE1y1Gk

For a mod called Phantoms Zone, this guy did it, I want to know how.
I also found out about something called x-ray extensions:
http://stalker-2.info/files/more/zp-x-ray-extensions.html

Adding some new features for x-ray, mostly test related stuff I think. Does anyone know anything further about Phantoms Zone?
  19:04:19  7 July 2013
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Kocayine
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X-ray extensions doesn't seem to bring that many visual stuff, if any... not to mention it's for COP.

Phantom Zone isn't released yet.
http://ap-pro.ru/forum/59-3682-1
  19:51:10  7 July 2013
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I also found out about something called x-ray extensions:
http://stalker-2.info/files/more/zp-x-ray-extensions.html
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X-ray extensions are for all 3 games - SOC, CS and COP:

http://xray-extensions.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/

There are some public pack out with binary enhancements, you can patch your xrGame.dll files to get some extra feature (no weapon sway among the features):

http://www.moddb.com/mods/cut-x-ray-project-soc-cs-cop/downloads

The developers are Skyloader (works for LA at the moment) and rus_phantom (maybe he is the author of Phantoms Zone). Both mod has weapon sway/swinging, and i doubt that you can get this feature before these mods come out.
 
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