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  23:54:53  24 July 2005
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It was a 8x57 js caliber (it´s similar to the german 7.9 that was used i think for the mg 42).
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The 8mm Mauser and 7.9mm are the same round, just diffrent names. The germans standeredized all thier rifle rounds during WW2.



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I must say that the army like FMJ bullet lose trajectory quite fast, and the hunting soft top ammonition is the best. What is good for a bear it´s good for everything smaller.
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Well seeing as to how all armies of civilized armies are regulated by the hauge convention to use only FMJ round, its not like they have a choice. And if you want a anti-personel round, nothing beats hollow points or EFMJ.

P.S. You dont want soft-points. They suck.
  03:06:16  24 July 2005
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I don´t think that is important. Only in video games bots instantly know from where the bullet came (if you had played IGI 2 you know that). Imagine that someone is shooting at you from a mountain one mile away. Silenced or not, you will die until you find where is the shooter on the mountain. I had fired from a scoped carabine. It was a 8x57 js caliber (it´s similar to the german 7.9 that was used i think for the mg 42). The recoil hit me in the shoulder like a horse, and it echoed 4 times on the mountains around (the echo is so cool). I was shooting on a target about 300m away and it was long time ago. I must say that the army like FMJ bullet lose trajectory quite fast, and the hunting soft top ammonition is the best. What is good for a bear it´s good for everything smaller.
  20:27:30  23 July 2005
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I thought they took the gatling gun out...

Hey, i have a question about suppressors. Assuming the bullet is supersonic and you can hear it clearly anyways, I heard that a suppressed fire is less directional than a non suppressed one (meaning someone would have a better chance to point out from which direction the sniper shot if he wasn't suppressed). Is this true?
  16:45:14  23 July 2005
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How many items can a stalker carry in the inventory?
Will the fire arms jam after intensive using? Is there a possibility of bad bullets that don´t fire? That will be very scarry: a monster is coming at you you raise your gun to aim at the creature, press the trigger and nothing. That gives a dose of fear everytime you press the trigger will this gun work. You must excape until you unjam the gun.
How fast is the gatling gun ? Does it have to barrells to start rotating, and then starts to fire ( like it is in doom).
I have a sugestion about my last (and first) message. Can the sights be raised or lowered to be precize at certain distances, cuz the ak has the possibility to ajust sights. I think that would be interesting and give a more realism to the game. Is it possible to atach a 75 shot drum magazine to the ak?
  10:52:32  23 July 2005
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All stalkers have the same strength. There are no player-stats.
  03:35:58  23 July 2005
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How many guns can a stalker carry? To many and the enemy kills you until you find what you are looking for. On the other side two guns is to liitle for a good arsenal. Is the strenght of a stalker important for the number of guns that he is carring?
The bullets haven´t got a straight line trajectory. Is it possible to shoot up guns? Let´s say that an AK is precise at 150 m. That means that if enemy is closer you must shoot below the target, and if it is far away above. Is it posible to have a place on the map where you can shoot up your weapons and get used to it? Like a shooting range? Nothing spectacular, just a humble one.
Is it possible to replace barrels from a shotgun with a choked one to shoot on greater distances? Can you have different tipe of ammo like hollow point for pistols, single shot for shotgun, explosive etc.?
Is it possible to duct tape two ammo clips for the AK´s to speed up the reload?
  03:36:13  13 June 2005
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personaly id like to see a masterkey (underslung) shotgun in there somewhere as a replacement for the grenade launcher for those tight room clearing bits we all know and love
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Yeah, if you look in the earlier part of this thread it was mentioned, but theres a good reason it was never really used. The thing is heavy as hell and has very little effective range when it comes to a human target. Plus you could only put 3 rounds in the thing anyway.
  23:37:04  12 June 2005
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personaly id like to see a masterkey (underslung) shotgun in there somewhere as a replacement for the grenade launcher for those tight room clearing bits we all know and love
  13:33:50  16 May 2005
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That's not entirely accurate, it largely depends on the caliber and whether the velocity it leaves the barrel at breaks the speed of sound. When you suppress something like an M4 you will hear a very audible crack because that is the sonic boom the projectile makes as it leaves the barrel at a speed breaking the sound barrier, whereas with a lower speed round like 9mm through an MP5SD you will hear much less of a crack. On the other hand an even slower caliber like .45ACP will make a barely audible sound.

Believe me I have fired a De Lesile carbine before and the sound it made was unbelievably quiet, picture the sound of a quietly stifled cough. The sound of the cocking piece slamming the firing pin forward was louder than the round being fired!. I have also shot a silenced .22 pistol, it was some sort of Ruger with a bull barrel and suppressor attached, we were using sub sonic ammo and all you could hear was the clicking of the bolt flying back and forward inside it.
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Actually most of that post was complete BS. 9mm and .45 muzzel velocities are still well above the speed of sounds (1400-2000 fps) So the unless you are using sub sonics, thee weapon will still be quite audible. As for suppressed .22, yea htey are VERY quite, but then again when you shoot them wihtout a suppressor, they are still very quite. A can dosent work like hollywood portrays them. your also suppose to shoot a can wet not dry, youll wear it out.
  09:06:50  16 May 2005
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but even with a suppressor there is still a very loud crack. They are a far cry from silent.

That's not entirely accurate, it largely depends on the caliber and whether the velocity it leaves the barrel at breaks the speed of sound. When you suppress something like an M4 you will hear a very audible crack because that is the sonic boom the projectile makes as it leaves the barrel at a speed breaking the sound barrier, whereas with a lower speed round like 9mm through an MP5SD you will hear much less of a crack. On the other hand an even slower caliber like .45ACP will make a barely audible sound.

Believe me I have fired a De Lesile carbine before and the sound it made was unbelievably quiet, picture the sound of a quietly stifled cough. The sound of the cocking piece slamming the firing pin forward was louder than the round being fired!. I have also shot a silenced .22 pistol, it was some sort of Ruger with a bull barrel and suppressor attached, we were using sub sonic ammo and all you could hear was the clicking of the bolt flying back and forward inside it.
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This would indicate that it is the ammo that you use that makes it relatively quiet, not the suppressor you use- so therefore, no suppressor could be said to be a silencer, because it is not the suppressor that is responsible for the silence.
 
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