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  13:19:43  17 August 2003
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Jinx Dragon
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Besides, ehm, who gives a damm bout if you shoot a baddy with a DU or a normal round, as long as he drops dead, the end effect is the same.
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True true but DU rounds are not used becouse of their minor radiation, that would be pointless seeing it takes years to have any great effect. Uranium is dense, making it have a higher penatration against armor. It would make a good heavy mounted weapon ammo against other vehicals.

Question is though, I won't go check but most large nations like china and the US do. Does russia have a supply of DU rounds?
  21:50:59  17 August 2003
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Cragger
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Besides, ehm, who gives a damm bout if you shoot a baddy with a DU or a normal round, as long as he drops dead, the end effect is the same.

True true but DU rounds are not used becouse of their minor radiation, that would be pointless seeing it takes years to have any great effect. Uranium is dense, making it have a higher penatration against armor. It would make a good heavy mounted weapon ammo against other vehicals.

Question is though, I won't go check but most large nations like china and the US do. Does russia have a supply of DU rounds?
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Depleted Uranium is nothing more than Lead-206 (Still hot). Tungsten is a far superior kinetic penetrator do to its higher density. However the US favors Lead-206 as kinetic penetrators in large caliber weapons because Lead-206 has the added effect of plasmifing as internal and external friction heat it up. Causing internal fires in armor and overpressure causing a brew up (Magazine explosion). Even if a brew up doesn't occur the crew is pretty much turned into a form of biological goo, and the vehicle is usesless until decontaminated which is economically unfeasible.

Against things such as body armor and walls etc. tungsten is the best penetrator. In the situations of firing into a contained sealed area DU rounds are very effective and sick at the same time.
  05:09:59  18 August 2003
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Fux0r666
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Let it also be known that, as far as I know, DU isn't used in projectiles under 20mm. DU is for busting tanks, and as far as I know, an ak47 won't penetrate a tank... even with DU.
  06:01:40  18 August 2003
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Jinx Dragon
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Let it also be known that, as far as I know, DU isn't used in projectiles under 20mm. DU is for busting tanks, and as far as I know, an ak47 won't penetrate a tank... even with DU.
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*nods*

Assumed that fact myself but I do wonder, how much armor on the typical light tank?
  07:44:02  18 August 2003
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Cragger
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Let it also be known that, as far as I know, DU isn't used in projectiles under 20mm. DU is for busting tanks, and as far as I know, an ak47 won't penetrate a tank... even with DU.

*nods*

Assumed that fact myself but I do wonder, how much armor on the typical light tank?
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Well for example the 2mm light plating on the BTR70's sides, rear, and top can be penetrated by a FMJ 7.62mm round at 50m.

Optimal penetration for the standard FMJ .50 ball round at 100m is 24mm.

And Fuxxor is correct, there are no low caliber DU rounds, there fabled Barret DU round is just that a fable. The Roufus .50 round has a 7.62mm tungsten penetrator with an explosive tip and a follow up incendiary.
  11:51:21  18 August 2003
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Jinx Dragon
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Let it also be known that, as far as I know, DU isn't used in projectiles under 20mm. DU is for busting tanks, and as far as I know, an ak47 won't penetrate a tank... even with DU.

*nods*

Assumed that fact myself but I do wonder, how much armor on the typical light tank?

Well for example the 2mm light plating on the BTR70's sides, rear, and top can be penetrated by a FMJ 7.62mm round at 50m.

Optimal penetration for the standard FMJ .50 ball round at 100m is 24mm.

And Fuxxor is correct, there are no low caliber DU rounds, there fabled Barret DU round is just that a fable. The Roufus .50 round has a 7.62mm tungsten penetrator with an explosive tip and a follow up incendiary.
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I ask becouse the russians have a 5.45mm round that can go through 16mm of steel plating 100% of the time at 150 meters and 80% of the time at 220 meters. I would like to see these AP rounds in the game.
  13:54:46  18 August 2003
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Cragger
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Let it also be known that, as far as I know, DU isn't used in projectiles under 20mm. DU is for busting tanks, and as far as I know, an ak47 won't penetrate a tank... even with DU.

*nods*

Assumed that fact myself but I do wonder, how much armor on the typical light tank?

Well for example the 2mm light plating on the BTR70's sides, rear, and top can be penetrated by a FMJ 7.62mm round at 50m.

Optimal penetration for the standard FMJ .50 ball round at 100m is 24mm.

And Fuxxor is correct, there are no low caliber DU rounds, there fabled Barret DU round is just that a fable. The Roufus .50 round has a 7.62mm tungsten penetrator with an explosive tip and a follow up incendiary.


I ask becouse the russians have a 5.45mm round that can go through 16mm of steel plating 100% of the time at 150 meters and 80% of the time at 220 meters. I would like to see these AP rounds in the game.
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You must remember though that the tests of 16mm are against rolled homogeneous steel, which is a even density steel of construction grade. This isn't anything like true armor plate that is usually alloys, layered construction, and hardened. The hardened armor steel penetration was 3mm at 100m for the 5,45mm mod. 7N22 AP round. Still plenty of penetration to defeat kevlar vests and very light vehciles which is its intent.
  18:18:19  29 August 2004
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Lone-bullet
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On forum: 08/28/2004
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lo there...
I've stopped reading somewhere in the third page but i'd like to say wich weapons i'd like too see
first of ll...i'd like to notice that the Stalkers are foreign people from all over the world...
They might have brought some of there own weapons with them...

so my prefered guns are:

handguns:
Colt Python .357
Colt 1991 .45
FN Five seven 5.7x28 (I think)
FN P-9 9x19mm
CZ 110 9x19mm or .40S&W
HK USP .40S&W Match
HK USP Mk .45
SigSauer P229 .357 SIG
Glock 20 10mm
AR:
FN FNC 5.56x45 NATO
FN FAL or M14 or G3A4 7.62x51 NATO
HK G36 5.56x45 NATO
Colt M16A2 or Colt M4A1 5.56x45 NATO
MG:
M60 7.62x51 NATO (Springfield?)
FN 249 SAW 5.56x45 NATO
Kalashnikov PKM 7.62x54 Rimmed
Degtyarev RPD 7.62x39
SR:
Dragunov SVD 7.62x54 Rimmed
Springfield M21 7.62x51 NATO
FN Police Rifle 7.62x51 NATO
SMG:
FN P90 5.7x28mm
CZ vz. 61 Scorpion 7.65x17 or 9x18mm
HK MP5A2 9x19mm
HK MP5kA2 9x19mm
IMI MiniUZI 9x19mm
Izhmash Bizon II PP-19 9x18mm
Ishmash PP-90 9x18mm

Thats about it
Ofcource not ALL of them...but some of them would be nice

  19:17:45  29 August 2004
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Doc Jones
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Thx for going to this thread...but heck were are you going to keep all of them?

Any favorites there?
  21:52:40  29 August 2004
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Pezdispenser
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On forum: 08/29/2004
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Man, that's a lot of posts. Just in case someone hasn't already suggested it, will there be some sort of Flame Thrower? I was reading about the super rat hoards and it got me thinking.
 
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