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  01:20:35  4 August 2005
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Fux0r666
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Looks a lot like an Accuracy International rifle. Similar role, similar promises, similar ergonomics.
  21:09:22  3 August 2005
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LOOK AT THIS

Hey I just want this baby
[link]http://securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2600/2634.htm[/link]
hehe........
  17:22:53  26 July 2005
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Guns and ammo 3.75

I had just said that I haven´t fired a suppressed weapon. When I fire one I will certainly say that how it does, or does it work in reallity.
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They work, but not as well as movies and TV shows depict.


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That about the recoil is true becouse of suppressors weight ,but you could do that better with replacing the whole barrel with a longer heavier one.
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You could do that, and it is very common amoung competition shooters. But if your a soldier, you are trying to cut down on weight as much as possible. Although, suppressors are not nearly as heavy as you might think.


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Do they make the gun wear out faster? I heard that silencers can very influence the guns life, becouse of greater stress to the parts.
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They dont wear out hte gun, but the suppresor has a finite lifetime of how many rounds can be fired before it wears out.


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What were the facts about that guy who was punished for sneaking ammo? Was it in war time, or not? Did he killed some enemy with that ammonition, or he was just using it on a shooting range?
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It was war time, it happenes a few time every war usually. its happened in GulfWar1 and GulfWar2. The one that i mentioned, the ammunition was never used, never even opened, but the fact taht he had it was enough to warrent a discharge, but that would be a dumb reason to lose a soldier.


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The purpose of the convetion for using fmj bullets is to minimize the damage.
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And the purpose of war is to kill those that wish to kill you.


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So fmj just runs trough . If it shatters on entry it ´s against the purpose of the convention, cuz all the energy of the bullet is consumed, so the wound is heavier. If it is highly deformable, it´ s against the convention again. Then there be no reason for making other kinds of bullets illegal.
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So in other words, we found a loophole. Too bad for our enemies, and good for us. It isnt against the convention, all milspec ammo adhears to the strict guidelines that where set forth.
  05:33:20  26 July 2005
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The primary purpose of a sound and flash suppressor is to reduce the visual and audial signature of the weapon. Added stability is just a side effect if having more weight up front. On the other hand, more weight up front unbalances the weapon and adds inertia to the barrel tip, decreasing maneoverability.

Suppressors work by redirecting the gasses into a series of baffles, decreasing their velocity. Here's a more detailed account:
[link]http://people.howstuffworks.com/question112.htm[/link]
  03:26:00  26 July 2005
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Lijenstina
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Guns and ammo 3.75

I had just said that I haven´t fired a suppressed weapon. When I fire one I will certainly say that how it does, or does it work in reallity.That about the recoil is true becouse of suppressors weight ,but you could do that better with replacing the whole barrel with a longer heavier one. How the suppressors work anyway? Do they make the gun wear out faster? I heard that silencers can very influence the guns life, becouse of greater stress to the parts. What were the facts about that guy who was punished for sneaking ammo? Was it in war time, or not? Did he killed some enemy with that ammonition, or he was just using it on a shooting range? The purpose of the convetion for using fmj bullets is to minimize the damage. So fmj just runs trough . If it shatters on entry it ´s against the purpose of the convention, cuz all the energy of the bullet is consumed, so the wound is heavier. If it is highly deformable, it´ s against the convention again. Then there be no reason for making other kinds of bullets illegal.
  16:04:20  25 July 2005
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That was a constatation: FMJ is a bullet which doesn´ t have the stopping power becouse it is very little deformabile and just falls faster, and soft top is used for hunting for some large animals like wild hogs.
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That isnt true at all. A FMJ round can deform quite abit. Hence why we have EFMJ. Also many rounds are made not to mushroom but rather to fragment. And it dosent fall faster because of the acceleration of gravity is constent. Now if you were to say the muzzel velocity was less, that would make more sense. Since the round cant cover as much distance in the same period of time. But thats not true either. FMJ round (standered boat tail design) are more stable and aerodynamic than either softpoints or hollowpoints and can achieve greater velocity. Unfortunatly a softpoint with a heavier nose than most other rounds has the tendancy to tumble through the air, which wreaks havoc on its trajectory.




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And about conventions, there is one which prohibites war in first time, but I don´t see that everyone respects that. Also, when I see that someone in wartime is court martial by his own side in conflict for using ilegal tipe of ammonition for his gun I will buy that story.
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It has happened. i know a guy, he wasnt court martialed, but he was thrown in the brigde for a week for sneaking in hydrashok rounds for his M9. And my guess is, is that you dont pay much attention to military news sources. Otherwise you would know these things.
  12:29:20  25 July 2005
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Firstly, you should probably have found a source that you were more comfortable with before posting an answer. Basically you gave an answer that you don't agree with, and spend some time debunking.

Secondly, flash and sound suppressors add mass to the end of the barrel, giving it more inertia, providing additional stability. It also moves the center of gravity forward, resisting muzzle climb. I'm not sure what kind of stability you would get from a suppressor on the end of an assault rifle, but it certainly helps in the case of the m11, so I hear.

I think the point of a sound suppressor is to make it more difficult to locate the firer at range. Also, they're designed to make firearms sound like things other than firearms. I think that you're less prone to alerting others if the noise you're creating sounds more like a car door slamming than a firearm. Subsonic bullets also substantially decrease the audial signature of the weapon. I'd imagine that if you were shooting with a suppressed rifle with subsonic rounds that you would only alert those around the area you were shooting rather than the entire town, or what not.
  03:48:51  25 July 2005
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Lijenstina
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This is something I find somewhere on internet for you cuz iI haven´t fired a arm with suppressor. If you wait a year, after I finish my term in the army (it´s 9 months), where I will proudly have a serbian replica of an ak i will be able to clearly say does it work or it´s a flop. I think that a blind person will be descent to folow the sound to came closer, to bigger the odds.

˝A threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor, which serves no useful sporting purpose. The flash suppressor allows the shooter to remain concealed when shooting at night, an advantage in combat but unnecessary for hunting or sporting purposes. In addition, the flash suppressor is useful for providing stability during rapid fire, helping the shooter maintain control of the firearm.
Before i say anythign let me ask you. Do you thinkits even remotley possible to toss a bullet out of the end of a barrel and remove the flame with a 2 inch piece of metal? No its not. Notice thats why its called "suppresor" it absolutley will not hide you at night. Its design is to funnel the flash more foward instead of spreading out blinding you every time you shoot. Basicly its another saftey feature, good for your eyes. Notice again with the "no use for sporting purposes" I guess he would say this though coming from a state that just replealed the helmet law on motorcycles. Apperently safety of any sort is not a issue with him. Last note is the flash suppresor has nothing to do with muzzle stabeilty. If he had any clue whatsoever hed realize thats called a muzzle break or compensator. Ill add that on threaded barrels features cannot be combined. SO in other words you couldnt have a muzzle break and flash suppresor.
A threaded barrel designed to accommodate a silencer, which is useful to assassins but clearly has no purpose for sportsmen. Silencers are illegal so there is no legitimate purpose for making it possible to put a silencer on a weapon.
Although designed probably origionaly for covert operations "dunno" i would hope that noise being such a issue you would be ENCOURAGED to use a suppresor "the correct term"
Again this is comeing from a indivdual trying to pass laws that doesnt even knwo the current laws. Suppresors are 100 percent legal in PA. They are covered under the NFA act. you cannot just goto wal-mart and buy one. a decent suppresor is about 800 dollars or so and then you must register and clear it with the BATF for 200 more dollars. This process can take 3 months to a year. I realy dont think PA residents have much to worry about with the suppresor issue. ˝
  02:59:36  25 July 2005
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Imagine that someone is shooting at you from a mountain one mile away. Silenced or not, you will die until you find where is the shooter on the mountain. I had fired from a scoped carabine.
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ummm.... right, so i was asking if the target has a higher chance of finding you without a suppressor.

In fact, lets really exagerate it, lets pretend your not sniping. You're blasting away at your enemy with suppressed m16, supersonic, but because you absolutely suck at aiming, you cant really hit him. Also, because the enemy is blind, he cant see you (exageration to the max). Will he be able to point more precisely from where you shot with or without suppressor or does it matter?
  02:59:19  25 July 2005
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Lijenstina
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Guns and ammo 3,5

I suspected that, becouse i had both in bullets in my hands. But like said it was long time ago, and I didn´t know what kind of gun powder was in it. That was a constatation: FMJ is a bullet which doesn´ t have the stopping power becouse it is very little deformabile and just falls faster, and soft top is used for hunting for some large animals like wild hogs. And about conventions, there is one which prohibites war in first time, but I don´t see that everyone respects that. Also, when I see that someone in wartime is court martial by his own side in conflict for using ilegal tipe of ammonition for his gun I will buy that story. At the end a bullet is a bullet. When it´s aimed well it kills, fmj, hollow point, soft point... But there we will go to far on this subject.
 
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