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  03:45:53  14 September 2005
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Ryujin
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On forum: 09/01/2004
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Zerocommand, I think I see what you are trying to get at.I have too much free time so I'd like to post a cupple of suggestions.
How about a bullpub config. with the grenade luancher under the barrel with a box mag (4x 20mm HE-FRAG). On to the main course... 45 round
staggered mag in the stock (a little long but curved) OR Cylinder mag with
costum 5.56 short rounds. On top one of those mounting rails that you see
on a M4A1 SOPMOD (I can never remeamber whats its called.) would be nice with a reflex or ECLAN sight (I think thats right, you know the flat crosshair one.) hope that helps.
  01:49:30  14 September 2005
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ZeroCommand
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On forum: 08/23/2005
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like i sad before the orginional drawing would be the better thing to look at. The online drawing is UGLY and the butt is horrible i know T_T i'll try and get a scanner to show ya the orginal but till then we're stuck with this really bad drawing i did in 5 minutes. the orginal has a better mag a better trigger and the overall look is better. the ring around the trigger is slighty smaller and gives enough room for the rest of the fingers to be placed. the butt is suppose to be pushed into the users shoulder and that would be his support for aiming. also as for the buttstock. i got no clue myself so thanks for pointing that out.
  01:03:09  13 September 2005
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serp
whats this?
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On forum: 02/27/2003
 

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serp
09/13/2005 1:03:49
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Sorry for double post.

Picture of the C-391X discussed above. not good quality picture. Hand-drawn is much better.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/zerocommand/C-391X.jpg

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I'm assuming that picture is the basic design, in which case your weapon has some weird things.
a) there doesn't seem to be any real place to place your trigger hand.
b) the buttstock end is curved the wrong way (it should form around your shoulder area, or at least just be flat, not stick into it
c) the buttstock seems to be too far below the line of the barrel for an assault rifle. I'm not sure this even matters, i just assumed it might make the gun hard to control since it would push up more.
  19:10:31  12 September 2005
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ZeroCommand
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On forum: 08/23/2005
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Meh lets leave the gun i created to be a weapon created by a international company then shall we? and just call it the C-391X =P

And darn you and your advanced knowlege of guns!
  17:17:36  12 September 2005
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x5060
Resident Nobody
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On forum: 07/23/2003
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Sorry i got here late.


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Sorry for double post.

Picture of the C-391X discussed above. not good quality picture. Hand-drawn is much better.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/zerocommand/C-391X.jpg

This gun could be handed out as a experimental weapon pieced together in the Zone. Prehaps a rename and special properties being added. as for real life weapons i'd like to see added.
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The things id like to add to Fux very good reply.

If its a canadian weapon that uses .223 then it will adopt the standered USGI 30rd mags. Same that are used in the M16, M249, and C7. Reinventing the Grenade launcher would be most prohibitive unless some revolutionizing technology came out. The M203 is the mainstay and will continue to be.



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AUG
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Way over hyped and not even in prodution anymore. the aussies have a good forgery though.


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L85A1
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Next to IMPOSIBLE to find outside the british military. Its heavy and cumbersome and can only be fired from 1 side (horrible for MOUT)


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Ots-14 Groza
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Its the OC-14. Its a very odd weapon and again next to impossible to find outside of teh russian military. Not too mention there are 4 seporate flavors each which takes diffrent ammo.


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MP5K-PDW
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Good weapon, but a little TOO specialized. stick with a plain jane MP5 that can be modified.


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SPP[/quote[

SSP stands for Standered Service Pistol. Not any one weapon.


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P-228
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Cant go wrong with a Sig.


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Pulled back Knife.
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There will be a knife im sure.


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G3-6K
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I think you mean the G36K not the G3-6K

The G36 is a good weapon. Kind of duplicating efforts and not exactly standeredized. It take proprietary mags. Its also not a battle tested weapon and if my memory serves me correctly, the gas block has some problems with certin environments. I would have opted for the G36C if i had to choose. also working the bolt took some getting use to.

The G3 is a very diffrent weapon. Much older design that has been in use for decades. A good sturdy weapon.
  20:52:27  11 September 2005
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ZeroCommand
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On forum: 08/23/2005
 

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ZeroCommand
09/11/2005 21:38:42
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Sorry for double post.

Picture of the C-391X discussed above. not good quality picture. Hand-drawn is much better.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/zerocommand/C-391X.jpg

This gun could be handed out as a experimental weapon pieced together in the Zone. Prehaps a rename and special properties being added. as for real life weapons i'd like to see added.

AUG
L85A1
Ots-14 Groza
MP5K-PDW
SPP
P-228
Pulled back Knife.
and my favorite
G3-6K
  15:28:45  10 September 2005
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ZeroCommand
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On forum: 08/23/2005
 

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09/10/2005 17:39:43
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alright my spirit kinda was just shot to the ground =/ it is suppose to be a futuristic weapon. built up from salavged parts that could possibly be found in the zone =/ w/e nvm =/ gun had a nice appealing look to it. And after looking at the launcher a second time would only be able to contain one nade. the magizines are loaded into a drum which enables it to have a balanced wieght and its suppose to be a heavy assault rifle for special operatives in the field that could require a silencer / flash surrpessor. as i said before i posted the gun it probly isn't stalker suitable because for one i know its way to powerful and heavy and its ability to be modded is high. The drum magaize rounds can be replaced with normal clips but since i figured it'd look neat with a drum i went with my heart feeling. as for the nades your right way to many. The name however , who knows if we'll start naming canadian rifles CAN- something or other? sides not like the name isn't moddifible by the Stalker Staff. just wanted to have a canadian weapon in the zone and figured i might as well try and fit my idea for a rifle in. the 203 launcher can be dismounted for lightening up the gun and so can the scope (if u had a picture you'd see how). As for the sharp blunt end its just a niffy idea i figured would allow a player to feel a little more safer with a big bad axe like stick =P. well guess if i wanna add this gun anywhere gonna have to either make my own game or wait till a game company thinks its a good idea XP. and whats "out there" about my gun? its a createable weapon o_O and i know it'd work i drew the blue prints for the inside of the gun myself. Anyway. I'm back with my new Rifle the C-391X. Basicly has some of the same principle of the CAN-7900 i made but has a better name and better overview. The moddifications made to it are as follows. 38 round Drum magizine or basic 32 round clip with same bullet size and length. 203 Launcher Trigger Fire (opinional). Enabled a Rate of Fire Toggle between Auto-Burst-Single. Same scope as last time. Strap add-on (opinional). Silcener/ Flash Surrpessor Aprroved Barrel. Heat shields. Hope it makes a better Weapon then my last rifle. Shape: Hard to explain. Will try making a rough drawing then placing it on here o_O i'm here to try and make a good effort to make a gun the Stalker Staff might like so help me out ^_^
  10:20:36  10 September 2005
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Fux0r666
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On forum: 06/04/2003
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Stalker is using only real world weapons, I think, asside from ones that might be artifact related.. but I thought I would give you some general crits about your weapon concept.


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I created a weapon that probly wouldn't be suitable for the game. wish i had a scanner i'd show ya what i drew but i'll just give you a overview of it. CAN-7900 Assault Rifle, Origin - Canada,

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Canadian military rifle designations start with C, not CAN. C-7, for example. Also, countries do not develop rifles, they require them. They issue a requirement and have various companies compete to develop a weapon that meets the requirements. Off the top of google's head, Deimaco, Armament Technologies, and Milarm are a few Canadian firearms/firearm accessories manufacturers.


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FMJ bullets 5.56 x 45 mm, 3 round grenade launcher (Chamber method) with trigger pull fire mode, 60 bullet magizine, round magizine loader,

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That's an aweful lot of ammunition grenades to be kept on the rifle at one time. The weight would guarantee that certainly wouldn't be the ideal CQB weapon! Also, a 60 round magazine would be incredibly long, making firing from the prone position uncomfortable, unless you have an alternate configuration for how the rounds are kept (ie. a C-mag type drum).


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sharp blunt butt for slashing with melee,

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Sharp and blunt are mutually exclusive. Usually, weapons are fitted with bayonette lugs for the personal combat experience, but this is so rare that the Canadia Army doesn't offer it in basic training anymore. It's very rare to come across a combat unit that does personal combat, to my knowledge- expect the British, who absolutely LOVE the bayonette charge. Ask the Argentines.

My point is that Canada doesn't really emphasize personal combat in their war doctrine and so it is unlikely that a 'sharp blunt butt' would be included in a design competition. If they did require something sharp or pointy, it would probably take the form of a bayonette.


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silencer approved barrel, Built in scope 3.5x power.

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This makes it sound like a special operations weapon, but know that the average military weapon will have a flash hider rather than a silencery. I think the m4 has a threadable flash hider that can be removed and a suppressor fitted in its place, but I am not sure.


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its to hard to detail the entire gun out but if u guys like what you have just heard i'll try if not then meh i suck at making guns =P Also created a Automatic Pistol
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Looks alright to me. I thought I would give you a few general comments. There are some strange things in there but nothing seemed too 'out there.'
  22:30:22  9 September 2005
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ZeroCommand
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On forum: 08/23/2005
 

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ZeroCommand
09/09/2005 22:41:43
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I created a weapon that probly wouldn't be suitable for the game. wish i had a scanner i'd show ya what i drew but i'll just give you a overview of it. CAN-7900 Assault Rifle, Origin - Canada, FMJ bullets 5.56 x 45 mm, 3 round grenade launcher (Chamber method) with trigger pull fire mode, 60 bullet magizine, round magizine loader, sharp blunt butt for slashing with melee, silencer approved barrel, Built in scope 3.5x power.
its to hard to detail the entire gun out but if u guys like what you have just heard i'll try if not then meh i suck at making guns =P Also created a Automatic Pistol
  16:10:33  4 August 2005
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x5060
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On forum: 07/23/2003
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Looks a lot like an Accuracy International rifle. Similar role, similar promises, similar ergonomics.
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I would agree. Looks like a knock off. Id still preffer a finly tuned Remington 700. I could go for better, but thats about the most percise weapon i would be able to take full advantage of.
 
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