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  23:42:10  20 January 2018
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PCDania
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Well, this bug is not that big a problem if playing without the EP. Just find something to shoot at
- really hope there comes an official patch fixing that ammo bug.
  23:23:04  20 January 2018
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yvessevy
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On forum: 12/24/2007
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Ok so if your belt is full and you have say a 1x 15 stack of 19mm ammo in it, would the stack be filled up to 20 if you doubleclicked your stash of 19mm ammo in your backpack?.

Just tested that scenario.
Filled my belt and made sure one of the stacks of ammo in the belt needed getting filled. That is not possible. That is a bug.

So, ammo gets stacked in the belt but not if all slots in the belt is in use.

What you wrote yvessevy in your post is just that when using the EP, ammo in the belt automatically got stacked, not that without the EP ammo does not get stacked if all slots in the belt is in use.
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Yeah my bad I didn't realise how open to interpretation my statement was until I read your responses.
  23:13:53  20 January 2018
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PCDania
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Ok so if your belt is full and you have say a 1x 15 stack of 19mm ammo in it, would the stack be filled up to 20 if you doubleclicked your stash of 19mm ammo in your backpack?.
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Just tested that scenario.
Filled my belt and made sure one of the stacks of ammo in the belt needed getting filled. That is not possible. That is a bug.

So, ammo gets stacked in the belt but not if all slots in the belt is in use.

What you wrote yvessevy in your post is just that when using the EP, ammo in the belt automatically got stacked, not that without the EP ammo does not get stacked if all slots in the belt is in use.
  22:45:19  20 January 2018
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yvessevy
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...For instance adding ammo to your belt now automagically gets stacked.
Umm, 1.4005 without EP does that already.

My game must've been bugged then because 1.4005 with EP 1.0 didn't do that for me.

Edit: I need to clarify that the ammo used to "stack" though if your belt already contained an incomplete stack it would not "fill" that incomplete stack. As per the EP1.1 update it does for me.

From the 1.1 changelog on moddb:

- Improved ammo belt behavior to be less awkward

I don't use any EP packs, running only 1.4005.

I tested by loading a save. In my belt I had 1x8 bullets and 1x7 bullets counting form the left.
I added 2x20 bullets from my inventory by double clicking the ammo twice.
Result: 2x20 bullets and 1x15 bullets in my belt counting from the left.

Tested with 9x18 mm.
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Ok so if your belt is full and you have say a 1x 15 stack of 19mm ammo in it, would the stack be filled up to 20 if you doubleclicked your stash of 19mm ammo in your backpack?

If not then this is the discrepancy I'm talking about. A minor yet very satisfying improvement.
  20:12:23  20 January 2018
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PCDania
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...For instance adding ammo to your belt now automagically gets stacked.
Umm, 1.4005 without EP does that already.

My game must've been bugged then because 1.4005 with EP 1.0 didn't do that for me.

Edit: I need to clarify that the ammo used to "stack" though if your belt already contained an incomplete stack it would not "fill" that incomplete stack. As per the EP1.1 update it does for me.

From the 1.1 changelog on moddb:

- Improved ammo belt behavior to be less awkward
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I don't use any EP packs, running only 1.4005.

I tested by loading a save. In my belt I had 1x8 bullets and 1x7 bullets counting form the left.
I added 2x20 bullets from my inventory by double clicking the ammo twice.
Result: 2x20 bullets and 1x15 bullets in my belt counting from the left.

Tested with 9x18 mm.
  18:40:13  20 January 2018
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Byte Me
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Even though I see your point I have to say I wildly prefer this over Dezowave's usual radio silence for extended periods of time after an update.

I'm playing the game in a very slow manner and The changes the EP brings to my ongoing game have been welcome improvements. For instance adding ammo to your belt now automagically gets stacked.

As for your frustration: They did make this EP a seperate entity from the "official" Dezowave updates. I would say they did this not to break the coherence of their usual update strategy
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Tastes differ.
I'm trying to document this abortion. In a place that everyone can refer to on the basis that a game of this magnitude needs it considering that the handbook is 4 years out of date and unlikely to be properly maintained.

A small example of the problems we face: Someone notices a copy of "tools for rough work" way down in the bowels of Agroprom Underground.
I try to check this with the bog standard v1.4005 issue.
Unsurprisingly, I don't find it in the specified location.
No-one seems to know WHICH of now 4 versions of the magic "E******* pack" produced this fine item.

The devs are now edging away from the need for issuing an official update in a reasonable timeframe (at least, that's the impression I got) and seem 'happy' with their strategy of incremental fudgepacks.

I'll just sit back and wait for the inevitable result.
(Don't get me wrong - I want to see a fully working game - but I prefer pragmatism to hopium)

The ammo stacks. Run up the flags and send on the dancing girls.
  18:25:49  20 January 2018
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yvessevy
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...For instance adding ammo to your belt now automagically gets stacked.
Umm, 1.4005 without EP does that already.
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My game must've been bugged then because 1.4005 with EP 1.0 didn't do that for me.

Edit: I need to clarify that the ammo used to "stack" though if your belt already contained an incomplete stack it would not "fill" that incomplete stack. As per the EP1.1 update it does for me.

From the 1.1 changelog on moddb:

- Improved ammo belt behavior to be less awkward
  17:43:20  20 January 2018
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PCDania
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...For instance adding ammo to your belt now automagically gets stacked.
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Umm, 1.4005 without EP does that already.
  13:50:41  20 January 2018
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yvessevy
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Even though I see your point I have to say I wildly prefer this over Dezowave's usual radio silence for extended periods of time after an update.

I'm playing the game in a very slow manner and The changes the EP brings to my ongoing game have been welcome improvements. For instance adding ammo to your belt now automagically gets stacked.

As for your frustration: They did make this EP a seperate entity from the "official" Dezowave updates. I would say they did this not to break the coherence of their usual update strategy
  07:43:29  20 January 2018
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Byte Me
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And just to muddy the waters even further...


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For your interest: there's a v1.1 of the extended pack released today
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This EP "fudgepack" is in its THIRD ITERATION (1.3) as of 16/01/2018.
Does this sound like a path of coherent development to you? If it does, then please explain it to me.
 
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