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  13:45:15  3 December 2012
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100RadsBar - Formerly known as LoboTheMan
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Personally I would not mind buying this via the Kindle App, on my Samsung Galaxy Nexus. I was a bit worried about how good/bad it was going to be reading in the 4.65 inch screen, but so far it does work very well, also I can have my favorite music playing while I read on the same device.

I did consider getting the Nexus Tab 7" to read e-books etc.
But my phone does excellent, so no need to get a new device.

I would (if I were you, and it was possible (contracts etc.)) to publish a limited amount in paper (to see if they can/will sell), and sell it via electronic media.

I would probably end up buying both (paperback & E-book) since it would allow me to read a good book at home, and have the book on my phone when on the move.

I did that for the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Southern Comfort book, I have them in paper form, and the E-book versions.
  13:54:12  3 December 2012
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i'll call Zug and I the Rock, and GSC the Hard Place.
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It's not nagging. You are, as the reader/potential buyer, offering your opinion to me, the author. And so far everyone's done it in a respectful enough way, so...

I have to say it'd be unfair to call GSC anything like that. They'll have a price point in mind, but they'd simply adjust that, so it's not like they're ordering me to make cuts.
Really, I'm the one who wants to keep the price to a reasonable level. It's what I think is fair. And that in turn means that, in some ways, it's the readers who are both the rock and the hard place - the rock being what they want, and the hard place being what they might be willing to pay.
I know there'll be those who will buy it whatever the price (within certain limits). But I also know there might be those who want it, but could find themselves priced out. I don't want that for all sorts of reasons.

As for the plots, sub-plot/side-mission stuff...they're all still there. It's what made the work. Under the original plan, the story so far would have been given a new front-end, then skimmed, and finally completed. It would/should have been with Sergiy Grushko 2-4 weeks ago.
Once I saw the CrSpace costing, though, it became clear that I had to do more...and that meant cuts, plus going over everything again to make sure it didn't leave any fragments, etc.
I've had to rebuild a couple of things from the ground up (the stuff between leaving Petrenko at the tunnel mouth and arriving at Dark Valley is essentially the same, but also different - and shorter; some of the Bandit base stuff will be different - a new bit added, another chunk taken away)...
Ultimately, it will be the same story with the same outcomes as I'd intended. A lot of the alterations have really been to address internal logic issues (the whole language ability thing being one), but he still meets and goes to the Zone with Blondie, they still jump the wire, he still does the Autopark raid, and so on.
  14:04:40  3 December 2012
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100RadsBar - Formerly known as LoboTheMan
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i'll call Zug and I the Rock, and GSC the Hard Place.

It's not nagging. You are, as the reader/potential buyer, offering your opinion to me, the author. And so far everyone's done it in a respectful enough way, so...

I have to say it'd be unfair to call GSC anything like that. They'll have a price point in mind, but they'd simply adjust that, so it's not like they're ordering me to make cuts.
Really, I'm the one who wants to keep the price to a reasonable level. It's what I think is fair. And that in turn means that, in some ways, it's the readers who are both the rock and the hard place - the rock being what they want, and the hard place being what they might be willing to pay.
I know there'll be those who will buy it whatever the price (within certain limits). But I also know there might be those who want it, but could find themselves priced out. I don't want that for all sorts of reasons.

As for the plots, sub-plot/side-mission stuff...they're all still there. It's what made the work. Under the original plan, the story so far would have been given a new front-end, then skimmed, and finally completed. It would/should have been with Sergiy Grushko 2-4 weeks ago.
Once I saw the CrSpace costing, though, it became clear that I had to do more...and that meant cuts, plus going over everything again to make sure it didn't leave any fragments, etc.
I've had to rebuild a couple of things from the ground up (the stuff between leaving Petrenko at the tunnel mouth and arriving at Dark Valley is essentially the same, but also different - and shorter; some of the Bandit base stuff will be different - a new bit added, another chunk taken away)...
Ultimately, it will be the same story with the same outcomes as I'd intended. A lot of the alterations have really been to address internal logic issues (the whole language ability thing being one), but he still meets and goes to the Zone with Blondie, they still jump the wire, he still does the Autopark raid, and so on.
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If the publishing goes well, you could always, at a later date, release a "directors cut" of the book perhaps as an E-Book or something
  17:16:49  3 December 2012
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snorkbait
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If the publishing goes well, you could always, at a later date, release a "directors cut" of the book perhaps as an E-Book or something
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If the contract allows/allowed for it...possibly, yeah. Or I could get on with another story/set of stories.

Skipping back to your previous comment, especially re: buying both formats, it might not happen soon (and won't be happening for my book), but wouldn't it be great if you got both as a bundle? Buy one, get the other format if you want it for free by simply entering a separately-provided one-time code as you perform the transaction.
True way of the future (along with all print books eventually becoming POD...maybe).


EDIT: I know there are some moves already in action, but I'm talking about it being the industry norm.
  01:54:25  12 December 2012
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I can understand that. As it is, it's quite hard to cut some of the stuff out seeing as it took so long to write in the first place, but...needs must. The worst-case scenario for me would be to have people going 'I would buy it, but why does it have to be so expensive?'

I think you're stuck between a rock and a hard place my friend. some may well say "I would buy it, but why does it have to be so expensive" but those people are not the ones that are commenting here. WE (I presume I can speak for Zug on this point)really want the whole book unedited. the little details often turn a good book into an amazing one, and part of what made the Stalker games so good were the random side quests. like some of those in you posted in your story...

Title: Fair enough. I also know (and somewhat agree) that a title is the first grab (that and a decent cover). But it's also true that, in some respects, the title is irrelevant: it's the contents that matter.
For example, Dickens' The Signalman doesn't have a title that says 'enjoyable, effective ghost story'...but it is one.

Ah, but Singalman as a title worked as it related to the events occuring throughout the book...

Anyway, didn't mean to sound like i was nagging... i'll call Zug and I the Rock, and GSC the Hard Place.
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Agreed, and I agree with you.

The book will be good, but it could end up being great.


Zug
  02:32:55  12 December 2012
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---QUOTATION---
i'll call Zug and I the Rock, and GSC the Hard Place.

It's not nagging. You are, as the reader/potential buyer, offering your opinion to me, the author. And so far everyone's done it in a respectful enough way, so...

I have to say it'd be unfair to call GSC anything like that. They'll have a price point in mind, but they'd simply adjust that, so it's not like they're ordering me to make cuts.
Really, I'm the one who wants to keep the price to a reasonable level. It's what I think is fair. And that in turn means that, in some ways, it's the readers who are both the rock and the hard place - the rock being what they want, and the hard place being what they might be willing to pay.
I know there'll be those who will buy it whatever the price (within certain limits). But I also know there might be those who want it, but could find themselves priced out. I don't want that for all sorts of reasons.

As for the plots, sub-plot/side-mission stuff...they're all still there. It's what made the work. Under the original plan, the story so far would have been given a new front-end, then skimmed, and finally completed. It would/should have been with Sergiy Grushko 2-4 weeks ago.
Once I saw the CrSpace costing, though, it became clear that I had to do more...and that meant cuts, plus going over everything again to make sure it didn't leave any fragments, etc.
I've had to rebuild a couple of things from the ground up (the stuff between leaving Petrenko at the tunnel mouth and arriving at Dark Valley is essentially the same, but also different - and shorter; some of the Bandit base stuff will be different - a new bit added, another chunk taken away)...
Ultimately, it will be the same story with the same outcomes as I'd intended. A lot of the alterations have really been to address internal logic issues (the whole language ability thing being one), but he still meets and goes to the Zone with Blondie, they still jump the wire, he still does the Autopark raid, and so on.
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sounds good. and you mean you right, after all your the famous Snorkbait!


Zug
  23:57:09  12 December 2012
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Yep. Legend in my own mind, me.
  02:06:22  9 January 2013
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Any news?
  12:11:55  9 January 2013
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Yep. I'm nearly done. Some of the little cuts and trims near the start (for pacing, effect, and to correct inaccuracies) had a bit of a nightmarish butterfly effect. Then of course there was Christmas and New Year, which involved a lot of running around (including a couple of trips to the hospital) and very little 'free' time.
I also had a couple of decisions to make re: length and whether to make a particular cut or not (could have gone into this one, though it would have made the book a fair bit longer in the end, but could fit as easily - or better in some ways - into the sequel (which I can now say I'll be writing, though it may not be published - too much water has to pass under the bridge, and I've yet to even begin writing the thing).
  17:12:18  9 January 2013
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Keep it up Snork! I'm still here and eagerly awaiting every chapter you release!

The writing is impeccable as always. So keen to unravel this mystery!
 
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