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  13:41:26  13 February 2009
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arnoldx
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On forum: 07/31/2007
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Indeed, if you're skilled enough and have the right equipment, then you can take out anyone with just one hit to head

w3rd!
I wish they (devs) would stop dumbing down games, even on Master SoC is easy if you have only a little skill.
so instead of asking for a mod to make the game easier, how about picking your skills up or go back to CS (counterstrike)
may seem a harsh comment, but meh!
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'Meh' is exactly the reaction I have to Counterstrike, Team Fortress, Frontlines Fuel of War, or any FPS that has no plot. I find multiplayer twitch games to be absolutely mindless borefests.

You advise me to 'pick up' my skills. If there is a mod that allows me to play the game and enjoy it at my current skill level, what harm does it do to you? You still have Master to yawn your way through.

Arnie
  13:37:05  13 February 2009
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arnoldx
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On forum: 07/31/2007
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Make Novice easier please

arnoldx~

The Game may seem real hard at first but it is not as easy as a lot of
other Games. You can't just stand out in the open and fire a few shots
at the Enemy and expect them to die.


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I'm not. I usually find myself hiding in buildings near a doorway waiting for the NPCs to come in and then I blast them ijn the face with a shotgun. It works, but its a tad boring. However, beibng in the open at all is a death sentence as they can see me from miles away and my accuracy at any range is shit.


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To begin with you have to use
cover and get behind things to protect you. Try using crouching and
low-crouching to make yourself a smaller target while at the same time
that increases your accuracy while shooting.


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I'm already doing

this.
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Learn to use Bandages
and Medkits quickly by hotkeys so when you take damage you do not
die quickly.


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I'm doing this as well, but it striikes me as a bit ridicluous to rely on spamming medkits and bandages to surbive. To ghive an example, Im currently stood atop a building in the agroprom complex with about 8 military coming up the staitrs. When they all rush up the stairs onto the roof Im dead unless I just run up to them and spam around 20 bandages while I shoot them all. Everyone's bleating on about how fun the 'realism' is, and then I can run around in a firefight and not die because im spamming a button?


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The weapons you start with are weak and not as accurate
so try to get better weapons from looting the dead. Don't just shoot at
the Enemy anywhere but concentrate on headshots that are a lot more
effective and deadly.


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I am. I'm not brainless lol.


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Keep in mind that being killed so easily is actually
what makes the Game so fun because it is NOT easy and makes you
use your brain to think about your attack and not just standing out in
the open and shooting the Enemy with ease.


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There seems to be a common opinion among some on the boards that a. being repeatedly killed etc MUST be fun for EVERYONE (witness all the blanket statements like yourse here), and that anyone NOT having fun and getting frustrated by the difficulty of Stalker wants to playn in some sort of God-Mode. There aren't just two extremes, using cover etc and standing still firing in the open. I'm all about the cover, me, I love sneaky sneaky silent assassin strike from the shadows gameplay. Its a pity that the stealth implementation in Stalker is so badly done, or I'd not be so frustrated.


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Get in the habit of making
Manual Saves often so you can go back to them if things really go bad.

Good Hunting Stalker.

TS
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I'm not criticising your personal preferences for playing, but you have to understand that not everyone is as good at the game as you. And you also must understand that THAT DOESNT MAKE ME A BAD PERSON. I cant use stealth as I would like to because the NPCs have superhuman detection skills, and once theyve seen me the firefights are unenjoyable for me, no matter how 'realistic' they may or may not be.

I AM NOT asking for a Serious Sam experience. I don't want to have an infinite health cheat. I don't want noclipping or all weapons at the start or to be able to carry twice the carrying capacity or never get out of breath. All i want is for the NPCs to be a LITTLE less uber in terms of their detection of me and for me to a LITTLE bit more accurate with my weapons at a distance.

Arnie
  10:30:11  13 February 2009
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busetibi
Necroscope
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On forum: 09/10/2007
 

Message edited by:
busetibi
02/13/2009 10:40:23
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Make Novice easier please

busetibi & Vintar~

How can you be without some understanding and sympathy?

Think back to when all of us were Rookies and we met Petruna and
his two men to go to the Bus Depot to rescue Nimble and we all got
our ass kicked by the Bandits before we realized how hard the Game
was. Sure we had our crappy Shotgun and PMm Pistol but the Bandits
with Vipers and AKs tore us a new one. I remember I couldn't even
see where all of them were and I thought wow!... this is a tough game.

For this very reason we all know that you will die quickly in the Zone if
you act like Rambo. You must use your brain to think about your angle
of attack, use cover and get better weapons. So please do not be so
hard on newcomers and try and remember we all started as Rookies.

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how can I be without understanding or sympathy?
because the first time I played through SoC was on Master and I thought it a walk in park, so much so that I almost binned the disc.
but what saved the game for me fatrap as I picked up his FPS R&G mods and lately Nightwatchs excellent NEWSA mod.( version 3 release imminent)
like I said in my initial post it may seem a harsh comment but.....
:shrug:
I'm a FPS gamer and have been for over 15 years, starting out lanning with quake/quakeworld and finishing playing Q3AOSP CTF comps for seven years, I'm not interested how pretty a game looks, I want challenges, something that makes me think outside the box, If I want any easy game I'll buy Barbies Horse Challenge or something along those lines.
might be a good game for someone in this thread to try.
  08:15:03  13 February 2009
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Vintar
a bit of this and a lot of that
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TS, yes I agree it was hard when I first started playing.

Not once did I think, make it easier!!

I dont like playing easy games, I lose interest that way.

When the OP looks back in a few weeks time when he is able to take out all the millitary with just a pistol and jacket, he will see how ridiculous his request was.

I never expected sympathy and will not dish out any
  08:02:16  13 February 2009
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Tejas Stalker
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Tejas Stalker
02/13/2009 8:09:10
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Make Novice easier please

busetibi & Vintar~

How can you be without some understanding and sympathy?

Think back to when all of us were Rookies and we met Petruna and
his two men to go to the Bus Depot to rescue Nimble and we all got
our ass kicked by the Bandits before we realized how hard the Game
was. Sure we had our crappy Shotgun and PMm Pistol but the Bandits
with Vipers and AKs tore us a new one. I remember I couldn't even
see where all of them were and I thought wow!... this is a tough game.

For this very reason we all know that you will die quickly in the Zone if
you act like Rambo. You must use your brain to think about your angle
of attack, use cover and get better weapons. So please do not be so
hard on newcomers and try and remember we all started as Rookies.

arnoldx~

Another tip is not to overload yourself carrying over the weight limit
otherwise you will get out of breath and have stamina problems. Just
carry what you need so you can move quickly and have room to carry
away your loot. The Zone is a learning experience that takes some time.

I realize you have played SoC before but my guess is it was probably a year
and a half ago and you have forgotten if you have been playing other games.

TS
  07:08:14  13 February 2009
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Vintar
a bit of this and a lot of that
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What is up with all these people wanting easier games.

I mean, do you want to run through them in ten minutes or what?

I`ve said it once and I`ll stick by my previous comment "GO PLAY PACMAN"
  02:39:37  13 February 2009
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busetibi
Necroscope
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On forum: 09/10/2007
Messages: 1322

---QUOTATION---
Indeed, if you're skilled enough and have the right equipment, then you can take out anyone with just one hit to head
---END QUOTATION---



w3rd!
I wish they (devs) would stop dumbing down games, even on Master SoC is easy if you have only a little skill.
so instead of asking for a mod to make the game easier, how about picking your skills up or go back to CS (counterstrike)
may seem a harsh comment, but meh!
  02:03:10  13 February 2009
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Tejas Stalker
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On forum: 05/12/2007
 

Message edited by:
Tejas Stalker
02/13/2009 2:04:51
Messages: 27178
Make Novice easier please

arnoldx~

The Game may seem real hard at first but it is not as easy as a lot of
other Games. You can't just stand out in the open and fire a few shots
at the Enemy and expect them to die. To begin with you have to use
cover and get behind things to protect you. Try using crouching and
low-crouching to make yourself a smaller target while at the same time
that increases your accuracy while shooting. Learn to use Bandages
and Medkits quickly by hotkeys so when you take damage you do not
die quickly. The weapons you start with are weak and not as accurate
so try to get better weapons from looting the dead. Don't just shoot at
the Enemy anywhere but concentrate on headshots that are a lot more
effective and deadly. Keep in mind that being killed so easily is actually
what makes the Game so fun because it is NOT easy and makes you
use your brain to think about your attack and not just standing out in
the open and shooting the Enemy with ease. Get in the habit of making
Manual Saves often so you can go back to them if things really go bad.

Good Hunting Stalker.

TS
  00:07:25  13 February 2009
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arnoldx
(Senior)
 
On forum: 07/31/2007
Messages: 67
I too would like Novice to be a litle easier. I gather that the hit probability thing affects the player as well as the NPCs. Is there a Mod out there anywhere that would lower the accuracy of the NPCs but not the Player? I find that if they are anything further than fairly close, I can empty mgazines at them and the dont drop. The NPC detection is set too high IMO as well.

I appreciate that some here may be awesome Stalkers who can kill the entire map on Master with their eyes closed, but I'm not that good and I dont want to spend hours replaying the same bits over and over in ana ttelpt to become an expert. Its a game, not a caling, lol.

I'll persevere if there isnt any way to make it a little easier, I've finished it once before. It
s such an amazing game.

Arnie
  17:41:30  2 January 2009
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flibble
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On forum: 03/25/2007
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Novice is easy as it is.
yes the first fights are hard but as soon as you get a AKs-74U and some real armor you can fight any one.
 
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