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  15:36:52  11 August 2007
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arnoldx
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Realistic excretion

In the always fun quest for more realism in our games, I realised that what Stalker needs is a more relaistic system for going to the toilet. We've already got eating in the game, but after chowing down on goodness knows how many cans of meat and those sausages, we should really see some effects other than an up to out health bar. I suggest either another bar next to the health and armor and rad ones - for fullness of bladder and bowels. Hell, maybe a separate bar for both. As they fill, your speed would decrease, and an icon would appear showing you that you were in discomfort. To reduce the bars you'd have to either take a piss or have a dump. Doing this i public places would cause negative reactions from NPCs, ranging from window-dressing comments and outrage to outright attacks if, say, you unloaded a bowelfull on Lukash' feet or what have you. This could be tied to your visibility bar. Obviously, whilst performing a poo, you'd have to be in Full Crouch mode.

Failing to go when you are feeling the need would initially as I said drop your speed, then maybe cause you to crouch automatically to simulate the effects of stomach cramps, and then your health would drop slightly. Then, when the icon goes beyonfd the flashing red state, you'd just involuntarily shit your pants or piss yourself. This would increase your 'visibility', as NPCs would be able to notice the smell.

Possibly different foodstuffs could have different types of effect. Curried eggs and jars of mollasses, for example, could produce random farting noises which would affect stealth.

Do I win five pounds?

Arnie
  16:35:25  11 August 2007
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7318
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:d damn bandits! don't shoot at me while i'm having a poo!

why not make the animals poo? paint some gibs brown, drop the pob (poo gib) from torso bone of the animal while walking or standing a game-hour latter they've eat, just limit the poo action while they're sleeping or it could be gross!
  18:53:40  11 August 2007
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Musky Melon
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You can go a few days without eating and pooping. If realistically modeled it'd be so infrequent that it would be relatively pointless.
  19:12:21  11 August 2007
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arnoldx
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You can go a few days without eating and pooping. If realistically modeled it'd be so infrequent that it would be relatively pointless.
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Then maybe some foods could be rotten, so they give you the shits. You wouldn't know until you'd eaten them. Those sausages, for example. The cans would probably be ok. Or someone could mod some laxative gas grenades. They'd be pretty effective in a firefight I reckon.

It's about time shitting was introduced in =to games. I remember in Postal 2 you could whip it out and piss on things, but it wasn't very realistically modelled IIRC.

Arnie
  08:58:29  12 August 2007
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Xandros
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Believe it or not I am going to implement taking a dump (if I can) in my mod.

You'll have dump metre (brown of course), that gets full as you eat. When it becomes maxed out, you'll fart, meaning stealth would be impossible.

So you'll have to find a nice quiet area, press a special key to squat and turd it all out.
  12:26:36  12 August 2007
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arnoldx
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Believe it or not I am going to implement taking a dump (if I can) in my mod.

You'll have dump metre (brown of course), that gets full as you eat. When it becomes maxed out, you'll fart, meaning stealth would be impossible.

So you'll have to find a nice quiet area, press a special key to squat and turd it all out.
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This is great. May I suggest using the 'grunt' sound effect from the very last level for this? It should be louder than the fart noise, so that in a dicey situation you'd have to decide wether the vastly increased chance of being heard pooing would be outweighed by the removal of the constant low-key stealth hit from the farting. You could also make the stools storable objects, maybe sellable too? If dried out, they could be passed off as artifacts.

[EDIT] you could also add some COnstipants that could be taken to temporarily reduce the farting, maybe reducing your brown meter, which however would go a darker shade of brown ever time you popped a constipant pill. Too many of these would increase your chances of a random 'bottom blowout'.


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  14:08:09  12 August 2007
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Xandros
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Brilliant ideas, especially the bottom blowout one. I'm sure we can all imagine that situation; monolith soldiers swarming in from all sides, bloodsuckers running in for the kill, ammo too low to fight... then a rumble and a shudder and suddenly marked one's arse explodes.
  16:14:18  12 August 2007
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arnoldx
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Brilliant ideas, especially the bottom blowout one. I'm sure we can all imagine that situation; monolith soldiers swarming in from all sides, bloodsuckers running in for the kill, ammo too low to fight... then a rumble and a shudder and suddenly marked one's arse explodes.
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Of course! I forgot about the well-known brown-trousering effect that fear has. I'd tie this in to how many enemies you're alerted to on your mini-map, and also maybe as you suggest to how little ammo you have. Maybe some kind of algorithm could be used.

How about (number of enemies in vicinity (difference bewteen max carryable ammo and ammo actually held) X number of sausages eaten in last hour) minus number of trouser-tremors already had in last game hour) = percent chance of a rear eruption per minute of game time.

Oh, if only I had been involved from the offset in the development of Stalker! It would have had the most advanced digestion model in the history of gaming. It could have been called 'Dynamic Plopping' or maybe the 'Ass-Life' system.

It probably would've added another few years to the dev time, though.

Arnie
  04:10:25  13 August 2007
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Milkyway M16
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you know, i actually like the sound of this. there is even a way to get new models ingame. i've seen it done, and could be learned if practiced. the models for poo though would have to be really good, or else it wouldn't be realistic. if someone is actually going to try to mod this, ill be happy to point you to the direction of a link i found of how to add new models ingame.
  13:22:58  13 August 2007
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arnoldx
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you know, i actually like the sound of this. there is even a way to get new models ingame. i've seen it done, and could be learned if practiced. the models for poo though would have to be really good, or else it wouldn't be realistic. if someone is actually going to try to mod this, ill be happy to point you to the direction of a link i found of how to add new models ingame.
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Excellent. I thouroughly agree that the released stools should be carryable items. My gran told me that during the war, people used to fry cowpats and eat them. Apparently they're a bit like a spanish omelette when prepared correctly. We need some additions to the sausages, cans and bread.

Plus, maybe they could be thrown as a weapon? A load of crap thrown in a mercs face should at least limit his accuracy.

Arnie
  13:59:46  13 August 2007
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mjcsniper
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OMGLOL!

arnolldx you are a legend!!!
loving the ideas
  22:35:40  13 August 2007
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arnoldx
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OMGLOL!

arnolldx you are a legend!!!
loving the ideas
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Well, thank you! But I'm only advocating this in the spirit of realism.

I've been thinking about the Blowouts, though. When a blowout happens ingame, it would be a good time to habve them implement sudden unstoppable explosive bowel movements to ALL the NPCs and critters in the entire area. The Freedom Base, for example, would be a sight to see during such an event!

Arnie
  18:01:12  14 February 2009
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arnoldx
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Did anyone ever get around to making this mod?

Arnie
  23:54:03  14 February 2009
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Lol! I love the throwing poo idea!

Like a bloodsucker suddenly appears while you're pooping somewhere then you throw poo at it's face and it runs away, because of the smelly radiated poo.

What if you accidentally poo in your suit? (Lol SEVA with closed breathing system, that would be nasty..) Maybe Marked One would cough a bit or you need to take your suit out and right click then click "Clean".
  16:40:16  19 February 2009
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Audioave10
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Implementing such a mod would be a crap-shoot.
  04:55:07  21 February 2009
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BB_Berserk
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Hahah, mate this is defs funny shit

I can just imagine getting into a firefight then needing to shit, so you dive behind a tree and pinch a loaf then get back to it all the time bullets are whizzing by! Lol i would love to play with a mod like this.
  14:13:25  26 February 2009
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Sgt Doom
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A new take on the phrase "caught with your pants down" when a Pseudogiant interrupts your bowel movements.
  20:44:19  7 March 2009
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DooMike
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Man you guys are a sick bunch, but this thread cracked me up!

It isn´t a half-bad idea to implement in a mod, as i can clearly envision a group of stalkers on the move, stopping by some trees to take a piss.

And i can clearly envision a guy in the group needing to do "more" yelling in a tortured voice: "patsaneee, veruchajee...stonivuch" or whatever "Hey guys, wait up" would sound like.

However, on a serious note, the number two "action" ought to be a serious risk to perform, as one would have to un-suit and drop the primary weapon, low-crouching with just knife/pistol enabled...
  01:06:34  8 March 2009
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beyonder
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And i can clearly envision a guy in the group needing to do "more" yelling in a tortured voice: "patsaneee, veruchajee...stonivuch" or whatever "Hey guys, wait up" would sound like.
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"Aw crap, Igor's got the runs again."

Now imagine the animation when a NPC is dying and laying on his side. Turn it 90 degrees up, place him next to a tree and... Move to a safe distance.

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When everyone gets down to the brown level, I'd say that only a handful of people in the Zone would NOT have the runs. Canned meat, bread and sausages. Trust me, I know. Google "IBS".
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-beyonder
  12:30:08  8 March 2009
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BB_Berserk
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massive lols!
  06:29:08  30 March 2009
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Audioave10
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NO...you need a fart mod like in Blazing Saddles!

  04:32:46  6 April 2009
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RDXDukeOfHazard
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LOL When you get cought on the job (so to speak) by a bloodsucker.

Imagine 3rd person vew running away from a bloodsucker trying to pull your pants while trying to get your gun out.
Will you be able to take a dump anywhere? Man you'd have to look out where you step.

Would mutants have to take a dump too?



EVERYONE STOP!!!!!!!!

I'M TAKING A DUMP!

LOL
  13:14:28  25 April 2009
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Manic
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Best laugh I have had for ages, thanks Arnoldx.

BTW the NPC's already run like crazy when you toss a gren, so when the player tosses a dump, NPC's freak and run for their lives for the nearest cover.
Just give the dump, gren properties minus the explosion, that shouldn't be too hard to mod?
 
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