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  21:32:58  7 May 2020
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Lord_Santa
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I find it rather amazing how many nations and organizations (including the UN) are suddenly throwing literally billions of moneys at science and... nothing - and I mean... how many scientists does it take? how many moneys you gotta keep throwing at this? and who exactly are receiving all these 'fundings' and for what purpose? I mean, how many scientists [are] there in the world? and how many moneys do they need? and why doesn't it help? why isn't money solving the problem? I think we're reaching a point of ridiculousness and there seem to be no end to it, all the while people are getting tired of being locked up inside and entire industries are on the verge of collapse; might be time to... reassess the situation at hand? it's kinda like being at war, firing rubber-bullets at robots made from titanium all the while the generals are screaming "it's the only way!", as the bodies keep piling

on that note; the public news announced "Death Toll of the Day" -today, which goes to show how quickly this pandemic has become an every-day occurrence; now it [simply is], moneys or not.
  00:13:18  8 May 2020
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Don Reba
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What makes you think anyone is throwing money at science right now? And even if they were, you are not going to just will new medicines for a new disease into being in the span of a couple of months. They are testing some existing drugs, like remdesivir, that took years to create. And even testing takes considerable time.
  11:32:25  8 May 2020
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Lord_Santa
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What makes you think anyone is throwing money at science right now?
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just a hunch:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/04/world/europe/eu-coronavirus-vaccine.html

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on that note, I do not believe that it is any kind of conspiracy, or similar - I'm just questioning the value of moneys in a situation as this, what with a global recession just around the corner 'n all...
  17:28:22  8 May 2020
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Don Reba
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Come on, that was four days ago. And it's funding for a vaccine that's still a year or more away.

Besides, recession is exactly when governments should be spending money.
  18:37:37  8 May 2020
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Three Mile Island
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Politicians like to throw money on problems in order to fake determination, and knowing human nature I assume researchers gladly take part of the windfall wether they have use for it or not. But I suppose manufacturing and distribution will cost a lot if/when a vaccine is found. As for the actual results, I guess it depends on the virus --making new flu vaccines seems relatively straigtforward, but we still don't have one for HIV even after 40 years.
  07:19:45  9 May 2020
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Covid-19 Pandemic

Facebook, YouTube and Twitter struggle with viral Plandemic conspiracy video
https://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-youtube-twitter-viral-plandemic-conspiracy-video/

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  20:28:30  12 May 2020
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Lord_Santa
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well, the point is that once people start getting desperate, due to unemployment and realize that their governments have been funneling billions of moneys into a vaccine that has yet to emerge, leaving nothing for the well-being [of] the people and suddenly Supermarkets have gained an even stronger foothold on the general public and their daily consumption of goods, forcing the minor shops out of business, thus funeling even more moneys from those who are de facto poor, to those who are rich and become but richer, thanks to the pandemic; not to mention all the governments throwing moneys at banks and let's not get started on all the people who can't pay their rent and as such they will end up on the streets and/or within a well-fare system (if such a system exists in a given nation), then there's public transport and how they are going to have to raise the ticket-prices in order to cope with the losses of a shut-down society - criminals, already empowered due to the negligence of politicians (on a global scale) will gain an even more powerful foothold, both in local communities and on regional scale(s), depending on nation; due to the politicians failing and there being no jobs - and let's not forget all the religious nutcases who will see a surge in members, as people will be angry and left to their own devices, due to the overwhelming amount [of] people in need, thus being far more inclined to make poor judgements

so... yeah... my point is; what will the [value] of money be, in a year, or so - once the domino-effect has actually started? let's not forget the second wave, as nations open up, as well - causing even greater disturbances in every aspect of society and even more poverty, as poliiticans will inevtably try to throw more moneys at the problem, all the while 'the people' will start questioning whether this strategy of "lock everyone inside and spend all the moneys" is actually beneficial for them, or if it is perhaps so that those in power have all succumbed to a collective psychosis where they have no fundamental insight as how to actually deal with this

let's not mention all the farmers, etc across Europe who aren't getting their cheap labor, as well and how that is going to affect the entire industry in the long-term... not to mention Germany wanting more moneys than practically the entire EU, to recuperate for their losses, all the while the EU has been pretty shaky for some time, especially what with the Eastern European nations (still) being run by openly corrupt politicians who pay no heed to international, nor EU laws and regulations

but what do I know? I'm just random internet-person, thinking out loud
  02:50:18  13 May 2020
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Three Mile Island
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True, I suppose all this money-printing will eventually result in inflation somehow. But it may take quite some time to spread to the whole economy, with supply and demand deciding which commodities are affected first.

I suppose any product whose supply has become limited by the lockdown will increase in price (assuming there's still demand for it). Indeed it seems farmers are having trouble finding cheap seasonal workers, seems some people are even starting to wonder why it's not possible to hire unemployed locals (that may get most their salary subsidised anyway) instead of flying in workers from e.g. Thailand, as is normally the case.

At the same time restaurants buy much less food stuffs right now, possibly resulting in lower demand, restaurants are also known for throwing a lot of their surplus food so the effect might be even bigger. But what will happen with prices if the lockdowns are lifted and people rush back to the restaurants, while at the same time most of this year's harvest has gone to waste?
  19:08:27  15 June 2020
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Covid-19 Pandemic

In my country both the number of deaths and intensive care cases have decreased since the mid April peak. Especially the number of deaths have declined very steadily since April, and seem to reach zero in just a couple of months if the current trend continues. This is a bit puzzling, since people also stopped caring about social distancing etc since April. Anyone have a guess how it fits together?
  21:52:54  15 June 2020
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Lord_Santa
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Covid-19 Pandemic

In my country both the number of deaths and intensive care cases have decreased since the mid April peak. Especially the number of deaths have declined very steadily since April, and seem to reach zero in just a couple of months if the current trend continues. This is a bit puzzling, since people also stopped caring about social distancing etc since April. Anyone have a guess how it fits together?
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one hypothesis would be the concept of 'herd immunity' starting to spread, I suppose:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

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excerpt from the "Mechanics" section:

"Individuals who are immune to a disease act as a barrier in the spread of disease, slowing or preventing the transmission of disease to others. An individual's immunity can be acquired via a natural infection or through artificial means, such as vaccination. When a critical proportion of the population becomes immune, called the herd immunity threshold (HIT) or herd immunity level (HIL), the disease may no longer persist in the population, ceasing to be endemic"
 
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