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  06:48:27  29 November 2021
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Tejas Stalker
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Best games like Subnautica that'll keep you going back down under
https://www.gamesradar.com/games-like-subnautica/

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Three Mile Island

I thought it was funny but very accurate that the first Game recommended was The Long Dark that I've been trying to get you to try.

After seeing the screenshot of Subnautica: Below Zero in that previous article, I was wondering if the sequel went "woke"?

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  17:13:48  29 November 2021
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I thought it was funny but very accurate that the first Game recommended was The Long Dark that I've been trying to get you to try.
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Indeed it's one of the few choices on the list that makes sense. Raft, The Forest and Minecraft may also fit; but hardly Abzu or the rest as far as I can tell.


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After seeing the screenshot of Subnautica: Below Zero in that previous article, I was wondering if the sequel went "woke"?
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It appears so, judging from this eloquent review:


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"Being inclusive is not political. Playing as a woman is not political."
Thats what one of the developers replied to a customer complaining how much effort they put into race and gender, while blatantly ignoring real issues with the game.

Shoving the sexuality (and sexual preference - WTF kids play this game too!) of protagonists, how strong they are for women and how diverse the characters are, that all your white and male characters are either dumb, goofy, gay, evil, corrupt, stupid and useless down the throat of people is the very definition of politics and makes your game propaganda.
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Not to mention, the way you portrayed these "inclusive" characters made them extremely unlikeable. They are incompetent, arrogant, overly aggressive, cant control their emotions, unfunny, cringy, narcissistic, insecure and stereotypical in general. So what picture are you trying to paint here in any case? Is that supposed to be inspiration for POC and females? You only look like the devs of TLoU2, who tried to be woke and then made the worst people POC and/or female, made you kill doggies and horses, made the vast majority of the people you need to kill POC and female and to top it off even added a Jewish character who has a huge nose.
Bravo. Congratulations. But thats what happens when you force something without even understanding it. Politics after all.
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https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/subnautica-below-zero/user-reviews

Someone wrote that The Long Dark's story has gone woke too. Please clarify.
  12:16:26  30 November 2021
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Three Mile Island:

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This one was funny that I read from your link:


"The plot is mind-blowing. A black lesbian developed a vaccine that a super-advanced alien couldn't, killed herself by accident. Her sister (you) resurrects the alien that destroyed at least 4 human ships (Degasi, Aurora, Sunbeam, Mercury II) killing dozens of humans, called for help but still killed the first human trying to locate them because "Lil wanted to know too much about Architects"."

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/subnautica-below-zero/user-reviews

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Someone wrote that The Long Dark's story has gone woke too. Please clarify.

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I'm not aware of that, as I've only played the Sandbox mode that came out first, of which I joined at least 6 years ago ( the original reason I finally gave in and created a Steam account ) and it has no other people.

However the Story Mode that came out in the last year or two, has other people and is most likely the source for what you say. I have not tried it, don't know anyone who has and most of my friends love the Sandbox mode for the lack of other people. Someday I may give it a try but as it stands, the Sandbox mode has several new levels I have yet to see. Do you have a link for what you are saying?

Some Game Developers think being inclusive and diverse is the way to broaden their audience, but if they enact it at the expense of others, or should I say if it is done poorly or comes across like pandering, they can lose more people than they gain. Likewise I have a lesser desire to ever buy the Subnautica: Below Zero after reading all the complaints on how awful it is compared to the original Game.

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  15:30:16  30 November 2021
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Do you have a link for what you are saying?
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No, it was just mentioned in passing in some forum post. Could mean anything or nothing.
  10:52:16  5 December 2021
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I was looking at my STEAM wishlist and thinking about removing Subnautica: Below Zero after reading how woke it is. Then I noticed Subnautica was no longer listed. I checked my currently owned Games and found it. Apparently I bought it some time this year on sale and forgot I did that.

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  15:28:09  5 December 2021
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That seems like an excellent opportunity to try out those VR goggles...
  23:18:02  5 December 2021
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Actually, all my free time with the exception of brief internet interludes like this, is currently spent learning and studying about amateur or "ham" radios.

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  23:56:14  5 December 2021
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You're not building your own equipment, are you? Is the community still active in these days of the Internet?
  06:12:06  6 December 2021
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No, I am not interested in building my own equipment. I'm interested in buying equipment that is NOT made in China and therefore low quality. I'm not interested in buying the Chinese junk that is very common over here. I'm buying prebuilt systems that are high quality and made in Japan.

I've started off with some handheld units, mainly from the perspective of survival equipment that you can take outdoors and go into areas where you may lose cell phone coverage but still have "ham" handheld radio communications through the various short wave, VHF and UHF bands. I bought a mobile unit for my vehicle but finding a place to fit it has become more difficult than I anticipated.

I want to get a much nicer home-based model that does everything, but that's not going to be cheap. Anyone can buy this equipment and listen, but in order to transmit you have to get a license and that's what I am studying for. To answer your question if it's still a viable community, I would say yes, all over the world. In fact, a good percentage of it has moved to digital and is done in conjunction with using Computers to assist the programming and other features. It is not a cheap hobby by any means and that's why some people start off with buying the Chinese junk like Baofeng.
https://www.baofengradio.com

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  16:52:12  6 December 2021
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What about Military surplus, or does functional such equipment fetch collector's prices?

I've occasionally read about radio amateurs chatting with people across the world, before the Internet this sounded like pretty geeky stuff. I can imagine both cost and license requirements act like thresholds to ensure a higher intellectual standard among the participants, kind of like the earlier days of the Web.
 
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