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  21:25:40  22 September 2021
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Three Mile Island
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Cryptocurrency Miners are using all the high end, mid-range and even some low end except for the very bottom end of the scale.

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Maybe, the quote claiming that "machines released in 2018 and 2019 are already obsolete" doesn't tell how good those machines were in the first place. The other quote "Genesis Mining now has the difficult task of finding homes for a very large batch of aging hardware" seems to be about RX 470 cards, those are apparently midrange cards from 2016. But also see the end of this post.


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I don't think Manufacturers care about average volume sales from Gamers over higher volume sales for any reason. That wouldn't make any sense. Even with greater difficulties producing enough with increased demand by Cryptocurrency Miners, this means higher profits for everyone, from the manufacturers of the chips, the video card fabricators, the middle men who ship them and the sellers who stock them.

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Seems at least RTX 3060 is reserved for gamers: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nvidias-cryptocurrency-mining-restriction-wont-be-coming-to-other-rtx-cards - maybe Nvidia is trying to show goodwill against gamers to keep their brand loyalty? On the retail end, my local stores only allow one card purchase per customer to discourage speculation, while Newegg bundles cards with other parts.


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I don't think Gamers are suddenly going to take up another hobby. They will either pay more like I have or delay a purchase like you have and get by longer with what you have.

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I was thinking of a longer perspective, say 2-5 years from now. GPU manufacturers want gamers to constantly upgrade their cards, and those upgrades are in turn motivated by increasingly demanding games. But if gamers can't upgrade their cards, then game developers won't sell more demanding games either, and the whole graphics hype train grinds to a halt.

One lost year may not be a problem, but after several years maybe gamers will be forced to start appreciating games with good playing mechanics instead of AAA graphics (Valheim's success should be a wake-up call). AAA studios are already relying on remasters of old games (due to lack of creativity), but what if they can't even sell remasters because gamers don't have the cards to appreciate them? Maybe some of these graphics-hype driving AAA studios will go bankrupt in that scenario.

If newer generations of gamers have to settle with consoles during their formative years they may never get into the PC gaming culture, especially if consoles offer the same performance as PCs for a fraction of the price for several years to come.

So, my long-winded point is that this is something GPU manufacturers want to avoid, especially if cryptomining won't continue forever.


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Actually the recommended is the RTX 2070 Super, which is not a moderate card ( closer to an RTX 2080 than a regular RTX 2070 ) or a GTX 1080 Ti.
https://i.imgur.com/eE7GiiV.jpg

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I see, I'm completely confused by their terminology. What's its newer equivalent, 3070? That still leaves 3080 and better to the cryptominers.


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Me neither. I think I had a GTX 560 when I played Call of Pripyat. From there I moved to a GTX 970 and then a GTX 1070 Ti for my planned build. Getting an RTX 3080 is my first time ever in the upper tier.
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I bought a 8800GTX to play Crysis in 2007, that card also came in handy when I found Stalker Clear Sky a year after. After that I haven't seen any new games deserving a high-end card.


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However look at what sold out on the NewEgg PC Builder service I used:
https://i.imgur.com/pzrqymt.jpg

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Is it just the RTX 3090 at the top that's sold out? My local stores have about 20-45 of various 3090s in stock.


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But it also says that China's low electricity cost made cryptomining especially profitable there: "Chinese miners has long received subsidized rates for electricity".

I think the point was not about the cost they were getting their electricity for, but the massive usage on a scale of equal to everyone in Sweden.

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My point was that low electricity prices gave Chinese miners a competitive advantage, since they could spend the saved money on better cards (see below).


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Cryptocurrency Miners don't care what the Manufacturers or Gamers deem obsolete. They just care about what works. That's why all the RTX 2000 series and the older GTX 1090s, 1080s, 1070s and some 1600 series got all gobbled up too, in addition to the new RTX 3000 series.

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I know nothing about Crypto, but from the article:

"adding computation power in the bitcoin network actually reduces the efficiency of that power. All mining machines that participate in the network compete to generate bitcoin rewards. The number of bitcoins available to be mined self-adjusts down after every 2,000 or so blocks. Mining gets harder. Therefore, adding new and faster machines to the network does not increase the total amount of coin mined but changes the distribution—people who own the fastest machines are most likely to capture the rewards. That is why machines released in 2018 and 2019 are already obsolete. It is also why the amount of electricity consumed per bitcoin transaction—already many times that of, say, Visa—increases over time."
  03:27:01  23 September 2021
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Tejas Stalker
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PC upgrading ( mega-thread )

I just need to catch up on some relevant information:

How to Choose the Right Desktop PC Chipset in 2021
https://www.pcmag.com/news/how-to-choose-the-right-desktop-pc-chipset-in-2021

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Millions of AMD PCs affected by new CPU driver flaw need to be patched ASAP
https://www.techspot.com/news/91322-millions-amd-pcs-affected-new-cpu-flaw-need.html

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The 5 best pre-built gaming PCs of 2021
Here are the best prebuilt PCs that money can buy.
https://dotesports.com/hardware/news/the-5-best-prebuilt-gaming-pcs

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HP’s new all-in-one has an ultrawide display and an RTX 3080 GPU
https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/21/22685583/hp-envy-34-inch-all-in-one-desktop-pc-price-release-date-rtx-3080-intel-core-i9

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Intel's Core i9-12900K beats Ryzen 9 5950X by 39% in Ashes of the Singularity
https://www.techspot.com/news/91341-intel-core-i9-12900k-beats-ryzen-9-5950x.html

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AMD Ryzen 3 5300G Review
https://www.techspot.com/review/2324-amd-ryzen-5300g/

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Lexar Launches NM800 SSDs: Up to 7400 MBps with Graphene Heat Spreader
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lexar-nm800-ssd-launches

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5 Ways You Can Build a Cheap Gaming PC for Under $100
https://www.makeuseof.com/cheap-gaming-pc-under-100/

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World’s first bioluminescent gaming PC is impractically beautiful
https://www.pcgamesn.com/gaming-hardware/custom-bioluminescent-gaming-PC-build

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Intel's powerful new NUC is now available but you should wait for cheaper pricing
https://www.pcgamer.com/intels-powerful-new-nuc-is-now-available-but-you-should-wait-for-cheaper-pricing/


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  02:20:32  24 September 2021
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Tejas Stalker
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Three Mile Island:

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Maybe, the quote claiming that "machines released in 2018 and 2019 are already obsolete" doesn't tell how good those machines were in the first place. The other quote "Genesis Mining now has the difficult task of finding homes for a very large batch of aging hardware" seems to be about RX 470 cards, those are apparently midrange cards from 2016. But also see the end of this post.

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From what little I actually now know about CryptoCurrency Mining ( I'll start abbreviating that as CCM ) it seems that the Miners have the money and resources to constantly upgrade. The desire to upgrade is driven by the significant improvements with each new generation of video cards. If you have the hardware that just needs new video cards to produce more CC, the video cards you are yanking out become disposable. Of course they would like some return on investments for those lightly/heavily used video cards. I'm sure MBs and memory need upgrades but not as often. Another components that may get used up too might be SSDs from what I'm reading. Those get worn out as far as I know.


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Seems at least RTX 3060 is reserved for gamers: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nvidias-cryptocurrency-mining-restriction-wont-be-coming-to-other-rtx-cards - maybe Nvidia is trying to show goodwill against gamers to keep their brand loyalty? On the retail end, my local stores only allow one card purchase per customer to discourage speculation, while Newegg bundles cards with other parts.

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I've previously posted about some RTX 3060 that were supposed to be LHR ( low-hash rate, or in other words not good for CCM ) but the claimed hardware fixes turned out to be software and breakable. There was a movement by Nvidia to try to produce RTX 3060s for Gamers but the claimed intent and execution of this seem to be two different things.

What's happening in your local stores in Sweden seems to be more of an anomaly compared to what's happening in the rest of the world. However what's happening in the Nordic countries has always been quite different than the rest of the world. You are far removed geographically from the perils of mass black & brown immigration ( though you do have some ) like the rest of Europe or North America, even if you have desirable economies and cultures. One could say your ability to walk in to a store and buy these highly sought after high end cards is only proof of that.


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I was thinking of a longer perspective, say 2-5 years from now. GPU manufacturers want gamers to constantly upgrade their cards, and those upgrades are in turn motivated by increasingly demanding games. But if gamers can't upgrade their cards, then game developers won't sell more demanding games either, and the whole graphics hype train grinds to a halt.

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Two decades ago, video card upgrading was closely tied to being able to keep up with the latest cutting edge technology Games. Now, not so much. Upgrading video cards is tied to keeping up with larger sized monitors, higher resolutions and higher frame rates.

At the same time in the past two decades, Consoles have drastically improved where they can play some of the PC titles that they couldn't before. With each newer generation of people having been exposed to stable and constantly upgraded versions ( by cycle and not yearly ) from Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo, there has been a huge growth of Gaming being available to a market that does not rely on PCs and video card upgrades alone.


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One lost year may not be a problem, but after several years maybe gamers will be forced to start appreciating games with good playing mechanics instead of AAA graphics (Valheim's success should be a wake-up call). AAA studios are already relying on remasters of old games (due to lack of creativity), but what if they can't even sell remasters because gamers don't have the cards to appreciate them? Maybe some of these graphics-hype driving AAA studios will go bankrupt in that scenario.

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I'll never understand the appeal of crudely developed graphic games like Minecraft or Valheim. However I'm not typical. I'm spoiled where I just want Games with the first person perspective. I don't have to have the most cutting edge graphics ( Stalker and The Long Dark ) but I don't want them to be retro 8-bit or 16-bit either. I'm not young either so I can't speak for what appeals to the younger generations today. Some remasters are fueled by the Nintendo Switch, that does not compete with the higher graphics of the PlayStation or XBox.


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If newer generations of gamers have to settle with consoles during their formative years they may never get into the PC gaming culture, especially if consoles offer the same performance as PCs for a fraction of the price for several years to come.

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Yep. More or less what I just covered.


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So, my long-winded point is that this is something GPU manufacturers want to avoid, especially if cryptomining won't continue forever.

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CCM is here to stay. While it has has a resurgence and may have a slight decline period again ( I'm more doubtful this will repeat ) it just keeps getting stronger and bigger. You may see more countries adopt it to be free of being tied to the US dollar or Euro.

Tejas:

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Actually the recommended is the RTX 2070 Super, which is not a moderate card ( closer to an RTX 2080 than a regular RTX 2070 ) or a GTX 1080 Ti.
https://i.imgur.com/eE7GiiV.jpg
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I see, I'm completely confused by their terminology. What's its newer equivalent, 3070? That still leaves 3080 and better to the cryptominers.

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I stand corrected. I just read that the ( RTX 3070 ) Super is inbetween a regular ( RTX 3070 ) and a ( RTX 3070 ) Ti. It is the "Ti" that is closer to the next tier. So an RTX 3070Ti is closer performance wise to a base RTX 3080 than the base RTX 3070. A "Super" sits in the very middle and should be cheaper ( in theory ) than a "Ti" but more than the base model.


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Is it just the RTX 3090 at the top that's sold out? My local stores have about 20-45 of various 3090s in stock.

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A huge amount of RTX 3090s were sold in the US simply because people couldn't get the RTX 3080. There's some money to be made in Sweden if someone had the resources to buy those ( even though you mentioned retailer limits ) and re-sell them to other parts of the world. A friend of mine in the US who scored an RTX 3080, generously gave his GTX 1070Ti to a friend in Croatia. He said it cost him $160 to ship it to him. Not sure how much of that was inflated due to Customs.


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My point was that low electricity prices gave Chinese miners a competitive advantage, since they could spend the saved money on better cards (see below).

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True.


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I know nothing about Crypto, but from the article:

"adding computation power in the bitcoin network actually reduces the efficiency of that power. All mining machines that participate in the network compete to generate bitcoin rewards. The number of bitcoins available to be mined self-adjusts down after every 2,000 or so blocks. Mining gets harder. Therefore, adding new and faster machines to the network does not increase the total amount of coin mined but changes the distribution—people who own the fastest machines are most likely to capture the rewards. That is why machines released in 2018 and 2019 are already obsolete. It is also why the amount of electricity consumed per bitcoin transaction—already many times that of, say, Visa—increases over time."

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Sounds like CCM market hype to sell newer MBs, video cards and other components. Much like the rest of the industry to sell all PC parts.

TS
  11:22:07  26 September 2021
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I bought a 8800GTX to play Crysis in 2007, that card also came in handy when I found Stalker Clear Sky a year after. After that I haven't seen any new games deserving a high-end card.
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Wow! You're hard to please.

I think I had an 8600 back then. I still have it lying around somewhere. It still worked when it went into mothballs so I'll have to give it a test sometime if I still have the right cables on my monitor, If it works I'll be able to get the 3Dmark Steam Achievement for using a GPU that sucks
  18:08:06  26 September 2021
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Three Mile Island
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Tejas,


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If you have the hardware that just needs new video cards to produce more CC, the video cards you are yanking out become disposable. Of course they would like some return on investments for those lightly/heavily used video cards.

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I wonder where those disposed cards end up. On the second-hand market? Seems like a lot of work for a larger crypto miner to sell old cards one by one like that. Could they perhaps be offloaded to a retailer that repackages and sells them as new?



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What's happening in your local stores in Sweden seems to be more of an anomaly compared to what's happening in the rest of the world. However what's happening in the Nordic countries has always been quite different than the rest of the world. You are far removed geographically from the perils of mass black & brown immigration ( though you do have some ) like the rest of Europe or North America, even if you have desirable economies and cultures. One could say your ability to walk in to a store and buy these highly sought after high end cards is only proof of that.

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We do have an excellent bridge to Denmark and the rest of the continent, while our generous welfare system makes it worth going that extra mile.

But I suppose most consumer goods is sent by container ship. I have no idea how manufacturers prioritize orders from various countries, but my guess would be that larger retailers/distributors like Newegg can negotiate better deals, then again maybe their higher turnaround make them go out of stock faster anyway?

Seems there's also over a hundred 3060 Ti in stock here as well (in addition to the 100+ 3080 Ti that I already mentioned) but all the regular 3060, 3070 and 3080 cards are sold out. Any idea why that's the case, do Ti cards offer less performance for their price?



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I was thinking of a longer perspective, say 2-5 years from now. GPU manufacturers want gamers to constantly upgrade their cards, and those upgrades are in turn motivated by increasingly demanding games. But if gamers can't upgrade their cards, then game developers won't sell more demanding games either, and the whole graphics hype train grinds to a halt.


Two decades ago, video card upgrading was closely tied to being able to keep up with the latest cutting edge technology Games. Now, not so much. Upgrading video cards is tied to keeping up with larger sized monitors, higher resolutions and higher frame rates.

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Good point, that means gaming monitor manufacturers too have a symbiotic relationship with GPU manufacturers. Maybe they are the ones pressuring Nvidia to neuter cards for cryptomining.


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I'll never understand the appeal of crudely developed graphic games like Minecraft or Valheim. However I'm not typical. I'm spoiled where I just want Games with the first person perspective. I don't have to have the most cutting edge graphics ( Stalker and The Long Dark ) but I don't want them to be retro 8-bit or 16-bit either. I'm not young either so I can't speak for what appeals to the younger generations today. Some remasters are fueled by the Nintendo Switch, that does not compete with the higher graphics of the PlayStation or XBox.

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Same here. It wasn't that many years ago gaming journalist were drooling over Geralt's hair physics in The Witcher 3, but maybe "better graphics" is no longer considered the most important selling point for a growing number of gamers. Maybe graphics development has slowed down too much as well --despite all the hype about ray tracing I can barely tell the difference. Add to that the current demand for large gameworlds that will make it even harder for GPUs to keep up.


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CCM is here to stay. While it has has a resurgence and may have a slight decline period again ( I'm more doubtful this will repeat ) it just keeps getting stronger and bigger. You may see more countries adopt it to be free of being tied to the US dollar or Euro.
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There's a difference between using cryptocurrencies and mining for them though. At some stage maybe the electricity (and hardware?) cost outweighs the profits for mining more.


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A huge amount of RTX 3090s were sold in the US simply because people couldn't get the RTX 3080.
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Seems Newegg does list cards separately, though they seem to be shipped directly from "partners" around the world. Here's a ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3090 Trinity OC 24GB for US $3,099 (just $100 more than the Swedish price I think):
https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-3090-zt-a30900j-10p/p/N82E16814500510?Description=ZOTAC%20GeForce%20RTX3090&cm_re=ZOTAC_GeForce%20RTX3090-_-14-500-510-_-Product


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A friend of mine in the US who scored an RTX 3080, generously gave his GTX 1070Ti to a friend in Croatia. He said it cost him $160 to ship it to him. Not sure how much of that was inflated due to Customs.
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Value added tax is often the biggest cost increase. Don't know about Croatia, by here they add 25% on purchases from outside the EU (on top of shipping and custom's fees).
  18:23:19  26 September 2021
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Three Mile Island
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nashathedog,


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I bought a 8800GTX to play Crysis in 2007, that card also came in handy when I found Stalker Clear Sky a year after. After that I haven't seen any new games deserving a high-end card.

Wow! You're hard to please.

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Of course, being a discerning customer and all that.

I think I upgraded to a GTX660(?) around 2012, but not for any particular game and it wasn't very expensive.

Once I got my current PC in 2017 I had a backlog of games my old PC couldn't run, such as The Witcher 3, Metro Last Light, Metro Exodus and Mass Effect Andromeda. But I'd never buy new hardware for any of them, on the contrary they almost made me despair about PC gaming.

Both Subnautica and ARK would deserve a new PC though, if I didn't already have a new one.
  10:15:36  27 September 2021
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Three Mile Island:

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I bought a 8800GTX to play Crysis in 2007, that card also came in handy when I found Stalker Clear Sky a year after. After that I haven't seen any new games deserving a high-end card.

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nashathedog:

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Wow! You're hard to please.

I think I had an 8600 back then. I still have it lying around somewhere. It still worked when it went into mothballs so I'll have to give it a test sometime if I still have the right cables on my monitor, If it works I'll be able to get the 3Dmark Steam Achievement for using a GPU that sucks

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I had a Gigabyte GeForce 7600 GS. It was a fanless design but I was able to play SoC on the maximum settings. I was very happy with it and never had any trouble with it. I found a link that showed the exact model I had:

GIGABYTE NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS 256MB DDR2 AGP
https://www.classicvga.com/product-page/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-7600-gs-256mb-ddr2-agp

However I got caught up in the upgrade bug and thought a newer design with a fan was the way to go. The new Saphire ATI 1950GT was suppose to be vastly superior. However it choked a lot on the dynamic weather of the X-ray Engine that I love. It ran like crap with bad frame rates and the Lightning in the Game would kill it. I ended up putting the older 7600GS back in and it ran fine again.

Saphire ATI Radeon X1950 GT AGP
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-x1950-gt-agp.c457

When Clear Sky came out with it's god rays, the GeForce 7600 GS couldn't handle it. As most newer video cards were PCI Express ( PCIe ) at the time and my system was older using AGP, I had limited choices upgrading. Nvidia was no longer making high end AGP video cards. I decided to try a Powercolor HD 3850 AGP.

I didn't realize it at the time, but it was the last high performance AGP video card that would be made. I couldn't find a link showing the same AGP model I had but here it is in PCIe form:

Powercolor HD 3850 AGP
https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/graphics/powercolor_radeon_hd_3850_xtreme_pcs_512/1/

This was a good video card. It performed well with high frame rates for Clear Sky and had a great copper heatsink with a fan on it. However it had one fatal flaw. I found an old post of mine that described the problem:

"I'm still waiting for an ATI AGP Hot Fix for my Powercolor HD3850 that doesn't freeze my Gamma & Brightness CCC controls to utter darkness when I launch the Game. I'm still waiting for my ATI Video card to display the Camouflage and Barb-Wire Fences that every Nvidia Video card has properly displayed since Day 1 with Clear Sky. I played SoC with Nvidia and it ran great. I blame half the troubles I have had with Clear Sky on ATI. They have always had good hardware but crappy Software for the over 10 years I have purchased ATI Video cards."

So basically ATI eventually came out with a hot fix that restored barbed wire fences and the mesh camouflage netting, but it was only for their PCI-e video cards. I waited and waited but it never happened for their AGP video cards. Imagine how difficult it is to find Doc's Cave in the Marshes when you can't see an opening in the barbed wire fencing. I vowed never to buy another ATI video card again.

ATI actually released a newer HD 4670 AGP later, but it went from the 256 bit down to 126 bit Bus width and generally performed worse and got terrible reviews. So I didn't buy anymore AGP video cards. I think I played Call of Pripyat when it came out in 2010 with my old system but in 2011 I purchased a newer pre-built system with a PCI-e video card slot. The pre-built system had a crappy minimum requirement video card ( why I got a good deal on it for around $800 ) so I immediately bought an upgrade for it which was a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Press/News/981

It performed well, including showing me everything in Clear Sky that I was missing, except since it had factory overclocked it kept crashing for unknown reasons. I couldn't figure out anyway to resolve it other than using the overclocking software to reduce the settings to what a base GTX 560 operated at and it ran fine. I had this for many, many years until I bought my Asus GTX 970. I have had zero problems with it and have been a big Asus fan since.

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  16:31:49  27 September 2021
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Imagine how difficult it is to find Doc's Cave in the Marshes when you can't see an opening in the barbed wire fencing. I vowed never to buy another ATI video card again.
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I used to see some kind of scaffolding around trees with the 8800GTX card in Clear Sky.

This also reminds me of a Skyrim quest, where you were supposed to control some light rays with focal lenses, but no matter how I tried the rays did not appear. Possibly the 8800GTX simply didn't render the rays, because when I later replayed the same quest with the 660GTX the rays appeared right away.
  09:16:04  29 September 2021
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The Gaming Hardware Supply Chain is Facing Yet Another Shortage
https://gamerant.com/gaming-hardware-supply-chain-shortage/

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Microsoft really doesn't want you installing Windows 11 on unsupported hardware
https://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-really-doesnt-want-you-installing-windows-11-on-unsupported-hardware/

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AMD CEO: Global Chip Shortage to Ease in Late 2022
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ceo-chip-shortages-to-ease-in-h2-2022

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What’s the Diff: SSD vs. NVMe vs. M.2 Drives
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/nvme-vs-m-2-drives/

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Prototype PCIe 5.0 SSD is already twice as fast as today's best drives
https://www.pcgamer.com/pcie-5-ssd-kioxia-14gbs/

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EVGA X570 Dark Review: EVGA Embraces AMD
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-x570-dark

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I bet this all-in-one portable powerhouse could smash your desktop rig hands down
https://www.pcgamer.com/all-in-one-portable-pc-diy-perks/

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MSI lets slip Intel's Alder Lake will be on sale November 4
https://www.pcgamer.com/msi-lets-slip-intels-alder-lake-will-be-on-sale-november-4/

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USB Type-C 2.1 Spec is Out and It Boasts Significant Improvements
https://wccftech.com/usb-type-c-2-1-spec-is-out-and-it-boasts-significant-improvements/

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What Is a Serial ATA (SATA) Cable?
https://www.lifewire.com/serial-ata-sata-2626009

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  09:34:20  1 October 2021
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MSI MAG X570S Tomahawk Max WIFI Review: Iterative Expectations
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/msi-x570s-tomahawk-review

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Acer Predator GM7000 2TB SSD Review
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9948/acer-predator-gm7000-2tb-ssd/index.html

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AMD 4700S CPU Reviewed: Defective PS5 Chips Find New Life
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-4700s-desktop-kit-ps5-cpu-review

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Crucial Adds 4TB SSD to MX500 Lineup
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/crucial-adds-4tb-sku-to-mx500-family

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SFF Gaming PC + RTX 3090: Raijintek PAN SLIM Old School Vibes
https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/9934/sff-gaming-pc-rtx-3090-raijintek-pan-slim-old-school-vibes/index.html

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Intel Core i9-12900 CPU spotted alongside ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Extreme motherboard
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-12900-cpu-spotted-alongside-asus-rog-maximus-z690-extreme-motherboard

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