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  20:25:45  15 December 2002
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Elite_Pandur
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On forum: 12/25/2001
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Well you can always set it to a no-arty game beforehand, but if arty is allowed and the person is using it to camp you shouldn't complain.
  12:02:09  16 December 2002
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JNB
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On forum: 12/01/2002
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Well you can always set it to a no-arty game beforehand, but if arty is allowed and the person is using it to camp you shouldn't complain.
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People cna camp without using artillary and its not like its a firm rule its just honour to play the game for fun with no other provocatives, also on another note in no artillary games for some reason cossacks lets you build artillary if you want to so another way to cheat easy especially for none speaking english people who are rookies and don't understand the rules you say.

JNB
  14:11:41  16 December 2002
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Sharpe novel reader
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On forum: 07/01/2002
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True experts don't use artillary, well the people in my circle don't no offense van orange but i play 10pt no a/t/w if people camp on the hill then its hard and it takes serious tactics to beat them which shows howgood a playery ou are but a battle with all guns blazing is much better than spending 4 times as long attacking a hill now all people play diff rules i play millions and trying to get a millions player off a hill is harder than you can imagion its pathetic, its a show that your not good at cossacks if you need to camp and while i'm at it raiding is a rookies tactics also
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Ermmmm I'm sorry but I know many people like to play without artillery but saying you are rubbish by doing so is utter rubbish. If you wish to ahve a truly historical battle don't use MB cannon like I do but saying no artillery is just plain pathetic. In the ages that cossacks was set artillery was a vital piece on the filed playing without it spoils the entire fun of the game in my opinion
  14:27:57  16 December 2002
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JNB
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On forum: 12/01/2002
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True experts don't use artillary, well the people in my circle don't no offense van orange but i play 10pt no a/t/w if people camp on the hill then its hard and it takes serious tactics to beat them which shows howgood a playery ou are but a battle with all guns blazing is much better than spending 4 times as long attacking a hill now all people play diff rules i play millions and trying to get a millions player off a hill is harder than you can imagion its pathetic, its a show that your not good at cossacks if you need to camp and while i'm at it raiding is a rookies tactics also

Ermmmm I'm sorry but I know many people like to play without artillery but saying you are rubbish by doing so is utter rubbish. If you wish to ahve a truly historical battle don't use MB cannon like I do but saying no artillery is just plain pathetic. In the ages that cossacks was set artillery was a vital piece on the filed playing without it spoils the entire fun of the game in my opinion
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well thanx for stating your opinion but you'll be glad to know im not gonna say what you say utter rubbish just because there is something you can do in a gam dosent mean you should do it i mean its not like we're doing historical battles here its just for fun i mean there wouldn't be a peace treaty until a certain time lol although in some historic stories there are i.e "oliver cromwell" people show there opinions which is great but i've never played anything different and i enjoy no art games. Van oranje is a well respected player and clan leader and although ive never played him or anyonme with art games i believe he is the best and i'm not trying to be insulting i just wish everyone would play the game without arguing about it. It's no longer a game for fun...

JNB
  16:12:12  16 December 2002
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baddog
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On forum: 10/06/2004
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LOL


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True experts don't use artillary, well the people in my circle dont no offense van orange but i play 10pt no a/t/w if people camp on the hill then its hard and it takes serious tactics to beat them which shows howgood a playery ou are but a battle with all guns blazing is much better than spending 4 times as long attacking a hill now all people play diff rules i play millions and trying to get a millions player off a hill is harder than you can imagion its pathetic, its a show that your not good at cossacks if you need to camp and while i'm at it raiding is a rookies tactics also.

JNB
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Oh god Im going to wet myself here. Im sorry, I hate to sneer I really do but let me clear things up for you.

1: Expert players dont play millions games. Millions denies all skill at the game in favour of a stupid clickfest
2: 10pt makes that even worse, as its basically who has the most efficient clicking pattern for building their stables, 18rax, hussars and danish musketeers
3: Expert players usually play with at least some artillery, because they CAN play with artillery. they know that it balances the game and gives some actual shape to the tactics
4: Setting up a well designed defensive position is NOT camping and it isnt cheap, its intelligent tactics, which if the game is being played in full can be defeated with good tactics.
5: Raiding is NOT a rookie tactic, failing ot protect yourself from raiding is a rookie mistake.

Expert? at what? not cossacks thats for sure. The millions game is for those who cannot play cossacks.

Shaun
  02:49:27  17 December 2002
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JNB
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On forum: 12/01/2002
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LOL


True experts don't use artillary, well the people in my circle dont no offense van orange but i play 10pt no a/t/w if people camp on the hill then its hard and it takes serious tactics to beat them which shows howgood a playery ou are but a battle with all guns blazing is much better than spending 4 times as long attacking a hill now all people play diff rules i play millions and trying to get a millions player off a hill is harder than you can imagion its pathetic, its a show that your not good at cossacks if you need to camp and while i'm at it raiding is a rookies tactics also.

JNB

Oh god Im going to wet myself here. Im sorry, I hate to sneer I really do but let me clear things up for you.

1: Expert players dont play millions games. Millions denies all skill at the game in favour of a stupid clickfest
2: 10pt makes that even worse, as its basically who has the most efficient clicking pattern for building their stables, 18rax, hussars and danish musketeers
3: Expert players usually play with at least some artillery, because they CAN play with artillery. they know that it balances the game and gives some actual shape to the tactics
4: Setting up a well designed defensive position is NOT camping and it isnt cheap, its intelligent tactics, which if the game is being played in full can be defeated with good tactics.
5: Raiding is NOT a rookie tactic, failing ot protect yourself from raiding is a rookie mistake.

Expert? at what? not cossacks thats for sure. The millions game is for those who cannot play cossacks.

Shaun
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Your "clickin frantically" takes skill, anyone can have a game plan in a long game with thousands its easy its boring it takes ages and most players even leave there PC's half way through a game cus they have nothing else to do. So "shaun" i think i know who you are so leave it alone it was just a small thing yo've provoked it into more than it needed to be its just a game so stop your wining.

JNB
  12:29:37  17 December 2002
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Gent[RUSAM]
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On forum: 12/10/2002
 

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Gent[RUSAM]
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Something about....


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Your "clickin frantically" takes skill, anyone can have a game plan in a long game with thousands its easy its boring it takes ages and most players even leave there PC's half way through a game cus they have nothing else to do. So "shaun" i think i know who you are so leave it alone it was just a small thing yo've provoked it into more than it needed to be its just a game so stop your wining.

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If it's so easy why you don't play "no millions" games with no PT and low settings?
Also, how good you know Baddog? He never change his nick and he is one of most honorable Cossacks players and designer of Cossacks Mod1. So looks like it's better for you just to stop playing Cossacks if you can't handle loses.
  13:29:00  17 December 2002
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JNB
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On forum: 12/01/2002
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Something about....

Your "clickin frantically" takes skill, anyone can have a game plan in a long game with thousands its easy its boring it takes ages and most players even leave there PC's half way through a game cus they have nothing else to do. So "shaun" i think i know who you are so leave it alone it was just a small thing yo've provoked it into more than it needed to be its just a game so stop your wining.

If it's so easy why you don't play "no millions" games with no PT and low settings?
Also, how good you know Baddog? He never change his nick and he is one of most honorable Cossacks players and designer of Cossacks Mod1. So looks like it's better for you just to stop playing Cossacks if you can't handle loses.
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I've had many people say things worse than that to me about my opinion and thast all it is cus your alowd to share your opinion and if my mates checked this forum they would concure but i presume its still a free world unles your a communist Gent ? i didn't know who shaun was till recently although yes its cool he made the mod1 that dosent make him god and i can contest anyones opinions i feel like its called free speech i mean no offense to anyone here i just stae my opinion and i am alone in what i think about camping because everyone has acccepted it which lowers the game so once again i say god bless and have a nice life ya'll.

JNB
  06:20:14  18 December 2002
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Elite_Pandur
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On forum: 12/25/2001
Messages: 162
Ok ok ok... waitaminit... maybe my comments were taken completely out of context. What I meant when I said that was two players can have agreements, verbal or otherwise, and set a few rules for their game beforehand, but they ought to honour these without any complaints during the game itself. The artillery and no-artillery thing was just an example as it is the most common type of agreement people make. Please, stop the quarrel ok?
  11:44:10  18 December 2002
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JNB
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On forum: 12/01/2002
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Ok ok ok... waitaminit... maybe my comments were taken completely out of context. What I meant when I said that was two players can have agreements, verbal or otherwise, and set a few rules for their game beforehand, but they ought to honour these without any complaints during the game itself. The artillery and no-artillery thing was just an example as it is the most common type of agreement people make. Please, stop the quarrel ok?
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right on see ya around.

JNB
 
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